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Thread Connects by IP, but not by Station Name on LAN
Fri, Aug 4 2006 5:09 PMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
I have my program set to try a local network connection first by station
name, and when that fails, it connects using an internet IP address assuming
they are not on the local network.

I have one customer with a unknown network configuration. (I've never seen
it) The software appears to revert to the IP address for a couple of
stations every time for connecting and never connects using the station
name.

Any idea what mangled network settings can cause this?

-Johnnie

Sat, Aug 5 2006 12:15 PMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
"Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:28FFEB8E-D8EF-4CBB-A03D-554C5CF4F16F@news.elevatesoft.com...
>I have my program set to try a local network connection first by station
>name, and when that fails, it connects using an internet IP address
>assuming they are not on the local network.
>
> I have one customer with a unknown network configuration. (I've never seen
> it) The software appears to revert to the IP address for a couple of
> stations every time for connecting and never connects using the station
> name.
>
> Any idea what mangled network settings can cause this?

All three that do not connect using the station name are Win98 machines, the
two that work fine on the same network are Windows XP.

-Johnnie

Mon, Aug 7 2006 2:34 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Johnnie,

<< Any idea what mangled network settings can cause this?

All three that do not connect using the station name are Win98 machines,
the two that work fine on the same network are Windows XP. >>

I've got no idea, however you might try just having them put in the host
name and IP address in the local hosts file.  That way you're sure to have
it work all of the time, or at least until the server machine's IP address
changes. Smiley

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Aug 7 2006 7:08 PMPermanent Link

"GregF"

"Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message news:E6612388-4ECE-48D7-84A1-A4C8D2C574BC@news.elevatesoft.com...
> "Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message news:28FFEB8E-D8EF-4CBB-A03D-554C5CF4F16F@news.elevatesoft.com...
>>I have my program set to try a local network connection first by station name, and when that fails, it connects using an internet
>>IP address assuming they are not on the local network.
>>
>> I have one customer with a unknown network configuration. (I've never seen it) The software appears to revert to the IP address
>> for a couple of stations every time for connecting and never connects using the station name.
>>
>> Any idea what mangled network settings can cause this?
>
> All three that do not connect using the station name are Win98 machines, the two that work fine on the same network are Windows
> XP.
>
> -Johnnie
>
>

is the name you are trying to connect to a WINXP or WIN98 machine
Win98 is very flaky trying to find XP machines by Name
I have had plenty of experience with this and have never found
a consistent set of circumstances that causes it so have never
been able to come up with a work around other than IP address

gF

Mon, Aug 7 2006 7:40 PMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
"GregF" <footyfacts@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> is the name you are trying to connect to a WINXP or WIN98 machine
> Win98 is very flaky trying to find XP machines by Name
> I have had plenty of experience with this and have never found
> a consistent set of circumstances that causes it so have never
> been able to come up with a work around other than IP address

Yes, the server is either a Win2k or WinXP box, and the problem stations are
all Win98ers.

This sucks as I did not design a "connect by local IP only if I am a POS
Win98 machine" algorithm into my connection logic.

Thanks for the info. Maybe someone else knows a setting or something that
can be changed or I'll make a hack by registry entry for these machines.

-Johnnie

Tue, Aug 8 2006 12:01 AMPermanent Link

Jason Lee
Johnnie,

Can the Win98 machines "see" the server computer using Windows Explorer
(i.e. Network Neighborhood)?

Is the Workgroup setting the same as the other machines?

~Jason Lee

Johnnie Norsworthy wrote:
> Thanks for the info. Maybe someone else knows a setting or something that
> can be changed or I'll make a hack by registry entry for these machines.
>
> -Johnnie
>
>
Tue, Aug 8 2006 2:21 AMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
"Jason Lee" <computerguy@wavecable.com> wrote in message
news:16A83660-5C8B-4D8E-A868-D0FEF9B986F7@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Johnnie,
>
> Can the Win98 machines "see" the server computer using Windows Explorer
> (i.e. Network Neighborhood)?
>
> Is the Workgroup setting the same as the other machines?

I'll have to check this, but generally I will need to make provisions for
many future installations with like permutations. And individual
configuration is going to be a mess.

Worse, if I say, "hey you should upgrade the OS on those machines", my head
will be bitten clean off.

-Johnnie

Tue, Aug 8 2006 9:20 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Johnnie,

<< I'll have to check this, but generally I will need to make provisions for
many future installations with like permutations. And individual
configuration is going to be a mess.

Worse, if I say, "hey you should upgrade the OS on those machines", my head
will be bitten clean off. >>

What is the issue with just using direct IP addresses again ? Smiley

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Aug 8 2006 11:56 AMPermanent Link

Jason Lee
Johnnie,

I use IP address as the primary source for connecting to servers because
you can't always know if the customer's LAN has been set up correctly
for Windows networking (which is necessary for computer name recognition
over the LAN). It seems to me that more of my customers have their
networking up and running with TCP/IP better than they do with the
Workgroup/Domain.

~Jason Lee

Johnnie Norsworthy wrote:
> "Jason Lee" <computerguy@wavecable.com> wrote in message
> news:16A83660-5C8B-4D8E-A868-D0FEF9B986F7@news.elevatesoft.com...
>> Johnnie,
>>
>> Can the Win98 machines "see" the server computer using Windows Explorer
>> (i.e. Network Neighborhood)?
>>
>> Is the Workgroup setting the same as the other machines?
>
> I'll have to check this, but generally I will need to make provisions for
> many future installations with like permutations. And individual
> configuration is going to be a mess.
>
> Worse, if I say, "hey you should upgrade the OS on those machines", my head
> will be bitten clean off.
>
> -Johnnie
>
>
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