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Thread All Addresses connections
Tue, Oct 13 2009 10:14 AMPermanent Link

adam
I am sorry for a basic question, but I can't find an answer to it myself, I just don't
know enough about networks!

I usually set up DBISAM CS with a fixed IP (usually 10.0.0.XXX) and set up my client
machines on other 10.0.0.XXX addresses. I have to set the router for the same addresses
... but then everything is sweet.

I am now at a customer (quite unprofessional to be honest ... but that's another story!)
their system is very kludgy. When workers want to connect to the internet they disconnect
from the main LAN and plug into a separate router which is internet connected. Don't ask
why, the system is in Uganda.

I can't access the internet router to set it, so if I fix the IPs of my users they can't
access the internet via the second router. Either they have to reset their machines IPs
manually (which is beyond their capabilities) or I run DBISAM "local" ... but that is much
slower.

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* Can I set up the DBSRVR on "All Addresses" on the server machine so that the other
machines can access it when all machines are just on "select an IP address automatically"
rather than on a fixed address?

How do I do this?

Adam
Tue, Oct 13 2009 11:09 AMPermanent Link

"Raul"
> * Can I set up the DBSRVR on "All Addresses" on the server machine so that
> the other
> machines can access it when all machines are just on "select an IP address
> automatically"
> rather than on a fixed address?

If i understand your question correctly then you need to have DBSRVR listen
on all addresses. I think it does it automatically but basically you simply
have to listen on 0.0.0.0 (this will listen on all addresses, including
loopback).

Raul

Thu, Oct 15 2009 4:31 AMPermanent Link

adam
>>If i understand your question correctly then you need to have DBSRVR listen
>>on all addresses. I think it does it automatically but basically you simply
>>have to listen on 0.0.0.0 (this will listen on all addresses, including
>>loopback).

Thank you so much Raul, it sounds stupid, but not being a Network techie this is the kind
of fact it is almost impossible to find out by searching through manuals!

As well as basic IP / loop-back / ports stuff which I know _nothing_ about I am also
horribly ignorant about similar stuff when setting up servers in a web situation or remote
situation ...

... it would actually be great if Elevate pointed us poor one-man-band app developers in
the direction of some short help documents on these sorts of issues when we are coming to
actually install apps on a network after we have done all the hard coding stuff.

Adam
Thu, Oct 15 2009 1:47 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Adam,

<< Thank you so much Raul, it sounds stupid, but not being a Network techie
this is the kind of fact it is almost impossible to find out by searching
through manuals! >>

It's under Configuring and Starting the Server in the manual:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=mantopic&id=dbisam4&product=d&version=7&category=1&topic=6

<< .. it would actually be great if Elevate pointed us poor one-man-band app
developers in the direction of some short help documents on these sorts of
issues when we are coming to actually install apps on a network after we
have done all the hard coding stuff. >>

Router configurations and such are so site-specific (witness your
description Smiley that it is very difficult to distill into one general
article or topic.  As far as general networking stuff with TCP/IP
configurations, we *do* assume a certain level of networking knowledge of IP
addresses, etc.

Also, remember that support is always available if you don't have a good
grasp of these topics and require some more hands-on help.  Phone and Skype
support are part of the what you pay for with a support plan.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Thu, Oct 15 2009 4:21 PMPermanent Link

"Raul"
You're welcome.

I don't recall what v3 did but in DBISAM v4 the DBSRVR does listen on all
addresses by default and in fact even tells you this (main address is "All
Addresses").

Otherwise i think the NGs work extremely well here - in many ways better
than documentation since in most cases we're looking for "real world
use/advice" (tech details as Tim pointed out do exist already in docs) which
are very hard to even try to document in a formal way.

Raul


"adam" <adam@fullwellmill.co.uk> wrote in message
news:252CE375-BE15-46FF-89B8-D67A2A480AC9@news.elevatesoft.com...
> .. it would actually be great if Elevate pointed us poor one-man-band app
> developers in
> the direction of some short help documents on these sorts of issues when
> we are coming to
> actually install apps on a network after we have done all the hard coding
> stuff.

Fri, Oct 16 2009 3:44 AMPermanent Link

adam
Responding to both Tim & Raul ... yes I guess I should have looked through the manual
first (!) ... but I was really making the more general point Tim makes in his response,
that network stuff is just dirty and nasty & I don't really like it!

Also, I think I may only have the much older DBSRVR help on my PC which is extremely thin
& has been massively improved by the looks of the web link.

I guess I ought to take a course or read a few books, but the books I've tried have
involved long stultifying chapters explaining the origin of the TCP-IP protocols &
absolutely nothing properly useful, with real world examples etc. As Tim says each set up
is so individual it is hard to produce a guide which covers all the bases.

Raul you are absolutely right ... the NGs give the answer in a few hours, which is a
miracle of modern communication.

Thanks to both of you & particularly for drawing me back to the on-line help resources
which are brilliant.
Fri, Oct 16 2009 3:01 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Adam,

<< I guess I ought to take a course or read a few books, but the books I've
tried have involved long stultifying chapters explaining the origin of the
TCP-IP protocols & absolutely nothing properly useful, with real world
examples etc. As Tim says each set up is so individual it is hard to produce
a guide which covers all the bases. >>

I learned most of what I know from talking with our T1 router guy during
installation and updating. Smiley It is often easier to learn from asking
simple questions of someone that knows what they're doing, which is why I
say just ask away here on the newsgroups and you'll eventually get a grasp
on the basics that you need to know to configure most office installations.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Sat, Oct 17 2009 10:51 PMPermanent Link

Tony Pomfrett
Adam,

You could try Train Signal. They have some excellent free training videos here:

http://www.trainsignaltraining.com/free-video-training/free-tcpip-networking-fundamentals-training-videos/

It used to be downloadable once but maybe you have to watch it online now.
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