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Windows 7 Freezes |
Sun, Dec 27 2009 6:50 AM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Under DBISAM Ver 4.9, and Delphi 7, two of my clients running Client/Server
versions of my application have their system hanging under Windows 7. The time varies from when they start their computers to when the system freezes. The system operates fine in Desktop mode. I have Googled for help, and most responses seem to indicate that the Registry needs cleaning. The respondees no doubt have ulterior motives, as one is then pointed to links to buy registry cleanup software. Both users have brand new computers, so it is unlikely they have already both suffered from Registry problems. I have played around with the Windows firewall, for local users, and set the TCP Port, the Server and relevant programs in the exceptions list but to no avail. I've told them both to revert to Windows XP until I can resolve the issue. Has any DBISAM user come across this problem so far, and if so how did you overcome it? Or is there some way to determine what is happening? TIA. Jim. |
Sun, Dec 27 2009 7:22 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | James
Nothing helpful but Sean McDermot has just reported a problem with Windows 7. He thinks its related to password protected files. Have a look in the dbisam.general newsgroup. Roy Lambert |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 12:23 AM | Permanent Link |
"Raul" | James,
Can you describe the setup a bit more - are you running the DBISAM server on these machines (if yes then as a service or as a application) or is your application simply acting as a client side of a client/server system with dbisam server being on another machine/server ? 32 or 64 bit? Anything in the event logs after the freeze? Have you tried running your apps (and dbisam if local) as WinXP compatible ? I've been using dbisam and win7 for 6+ months now with no problems. Most of the win7 issues are usually related to permissions and file/folder/registry redirection if you don't have a manifest. I'd check drivers and AntiVirus first - those have been culprits for most of the issues I've run into. Also VMWare and Foxit for some reason don't co-exist well (issue is with Foxit so revert to old version if you use vmware workstation and possibly player). Finally - registry cleaning is unlikely the source of your problem. While it can get corrupted (as any database) it's relatively rare. Removing info for uninstalled apps, temp files, file associations and such is fine (but unlikely to help you in this case) but if you want to try then CCleaner is reasonably good (http://www.ccleaner.com/) Raul __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4720 (20091227) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 6:19 AM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Hi Raul.
Slight correction to my initial post: it is Version 4.29, not 4.9. The Server is running as a Service. Not sure if they are 32 or 64 bit. I haven't used the event log before; now that you mention it, I will have a look and see what they contain. I hope it doesn't get deleted upon restarts. I haven't tried to run under XP compatible mode, but that seems like something to try out. The users aren't using VMWare. There are two slightly different scenarios with the two users: User one has two new computers, each with Windows 7; the Client running on the same computer as the Server seems to go for a long time before it hangs; the Client running on the other computer seems to run for only a few minutes before it hangs and has to be restarted. User number two has a new computer with Windows 7, on which the Server is running; the Client running on that computer seems to hang very soon after it starts up; two other computers both run Clients under Windows XP, connected to the Windows 7 Server, and they have no problems at all. I'm afraid I'm not up to speed with redirections and manifests, so don't know what to do in that regard. However, I'll look at registry/folder/file permissions What drivers should I check? Thanks for your advice. Jim. "Raul" <raul@raul.ca> wrote in message news:52A0B352-C91E-49DA-8D2B-2E00C2C1F1EC@news.elevatesoft.com... > James, > > Can you describe the setup a bit more - are you running the DBISAM server > on these machines (if yes then as a service or as a application) or is > your application simply acting as a client side of a client/server system > with dbisam server being on another machine/server ? > > 32 or 64 bit? > > Anything in the event logs after the freeze? > > Have you tried running your apps (and dbisam if local) as WinXP compatible > ? > > I've been using dbisam and win7 for 6+ months now with no problems. Most > of the win7 issues are usually related to permissions and > file/folder/registry redirection if you don't have a manifest. > > I'd check drivers and AntiVirus first - those have been culprits for most > of the issues I've run into. Also VMWare and Foxit for some reason don't > co-exist well (issue is with Foxit so revert to old version if you use > vmware workstation and possibly player). > > Finally - registry cleaning is unlikely the source of your problem. While > it can get corrupted (as any database) it's relatively rare. Removing info > for uninstalled apps, temp files, file associations and such is fine (but > unlikely to help you in this case) but if you want to try then CCleaner is > reasonably good (http://www.ccleaner.com/) > > Raul > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4720 (20091227) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 6:27 AM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Hi Roy.
There must be a head wind across the Pacific, as I haven't seen Sean's post as yet. Hope I have the right group - elevatesoft.public.dbisam.general? However, I'll take your advice and have a look at passwords in the systems. Thanks again, Jim. "Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message news:3386C7C1-BFE2-48B3-90A7-08E068832344@news.elevatesoft.com... > James > > > Nothing helpful but Sean McDermot has just reported a problem with Windows > 7. He thinks its related to password protected files. Have a look in the > dbisam.general newsgroup. > > Roy Lambert > |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 6:41 AM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Hi Roy.
Further to my earlier reply, I have now come across Sean's post in the dbisam.general group - it is under your Windows 7 topic of November 2. Yes, I'm in the same boat as Sean: the customers and techies think it's my software at fault. Guess a one-man show is heavily outnumbered by techies, customers AND Microsoft. Lucky we've got the dbisam newsgroups. Regards, Jim. "Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message news:3386C7C1-BFE2-48B3-90A7-08E068832344@news.elevatesoft.com... > James > > > Nothing helpful but Sean McDermot has just reported a problem with Windows > 7. He thinks its related to password protected files. Have a look in the > dbisam.general newsgroup. > > Roy Lambert > |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 6:53 AM | Permanent Link |
"Eduardo [HPro]" | James
Have you checked the policy to logoff clients automatically after 15 minutos of inactivity ? The names could be different because I am using Windows in Portuguese. "Administrative Tools" / "Local security settings" / "Server settings: time to disconnect sessions" It could be the reason of the freeze. Eduardo |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 7:23 AM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Thank you Eduardo.
Another setting worth checking. (However, it may not be this one, if set to the default of 15 minutes). Jim. "Eduardo [HPro]" <contato@hpro.com.br> wrote in message news:D820D953-38F1-4D33-BE85-7DECA8DD41BC@news.elevatesoft.com... > James > > Have you checked the policy to logoff clients automatically after 15 > minutos of inactivity ? > > The names could be different because I am using Windows in Portuguese. > > "Administrative Tools" / "Local security settings" / "Server settings: > time to disconnect sessions" > > It could be the reason of the freeze. > > Eduardo > |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 9:35 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | James,
<< Under DBISAM Ver 4.9, and Delphi 7, two of my clients running Client/Server versions of my application have their system hanging under Windows 7. The time varies from when they start their computers to when the system freezes. >> Is the whole computer freezing, or just your application ? << The system operates fine in Desktop mode. >> What exactly do you mean by "Desktop mode" ? Thanks, -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Mon, Dec 28 2009 3:51 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Duff" | Tim,
Yes, the whole computer freezes. Initially, the cursor has no effect on any control, then about a minute later even the mouse freezes. You can't <Alt/Tab> to move around to other applications. By Desktop mode, I mean embedded, where a single-user application does not go through the Server, but is 'attached' to a Data folder directly below the application ".\Data". Regards, Jim. |
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