Hi Roy,

> One of the issues going through my mind is what will happen about upgrade
> pricing. I'm not sure, as a hobbyist, that I'll be able to afford D2007 if
> the buyer doesn't keep a decent upgrade pricing.
Well, my problem with Borland has always been quite the opposite.
There was no difference on whether you're upgrading from D7 to D2005
or from D8 to D2005. That way if you purchase every version you
overpay twice (especially as most people don't need to upgrade that
often). In this case, I'd expect no less. I'm 99% sure, that there will
be same upgrade price from any version of Delphi to D2007. If latter is
ever released, that is...


Michael

J. Lee wrote:

> Now the Delphi team can focus on Delphi instead of making money on
> Delphi to pay for Borland's ALM and "Software Delivery Optimization" (I
> still don't really know exactly what that means?).

ALM and SDO are the latest Business School buzzwords for "We're going to
 convince you that you need to buy some narrow-scoped (read
'worthless'), over-priced software because you're a big company, employ
many mediocre MBA's who've heard about ALM and SDO and believe that all
the double-speak will solve all of your software problems"

Mark - "Call me Cynical"

It is worthy of note that DBase was spun off and is doing quite well.
Dbase has had two owners since the spin off.
I think that the installed base is too big. I can think of people to buy it, but some of the names are not good.

There are exactly two scenarios:

a. they have a buyer and word is going to get out so they pre-emptively announced it
b. they don't have a buyer and are trying to get some interest in it

I would vote for (a).

Herb

> Delphi has never been very popular, but you can still
> develop great software with it.

Oh yes, just to mention some famous ones: stuff like Adware,
Skype, DbIsam and a lot of others. Also, that by far it has one
of most active user groups. I have looked at some "That other
one" news groups some time ago and it wasn't as active as the
user-base of the Delphi news groups by far.

<rant>
And, I've started using Borland based compilers a looong time
ago (TC v1.x and TP v3.x) and I feel that the ALM and SDO
business are the ones that should be spinned of to another
name. If they are giving up the business that started the
company and where Borland realy did good stuff they should give
the name Borland to whoever buys it, thay can stay with
Inprise. It's the kind of feeling like: "That just isn't right.
I've got here first!" kind of thing. meh. I think I'll go hear
some good disco music while I'm at it also <VBG>.

Seriously, it's almost like I have been betrayed by someone
I've fought so fircely to defend for so many years... :-/
Oh well. Sometimes life sucks.
</rant>

Just hope that the new owner gives it the decent treatment it
deserves.

Andrew

Mark,

Oh, now that you put it that way. I guess I knew exactly what SDO meant
all along!

~J. Lee

Mark A. Andrews wrote:
> J. Lee wrote:
>
>> Now the Delphi team can focus on Delphi instead of making money on
>> Delphi to pay for Borland's ALM and "Software Delivery Optimization"
>> (I still don't really know exactly what that means?).
>
>
> ALM and SDO are the latest Business School buzzwords for "We're going to
>  convince you that you need to buy some narrow-scoped (read
> 'worthless'), over-priced software because you're a big company, employ
> many mediocre MBA's who've heard about ALM and SDO and believe that all
> the double-speak will solve all of your software problems"
>
> Mark - "Call me Cynical"

Hi,

> There are exactly two scenarios:
> a. they have a buyer and word is going to get out so they pre-emptively
announced it
> b. they don't have a buyer and are trying to get some interest in it
>
> I would vote for (a).

I sure too they have the buyer (Microsoft?) before announce.

But anyway I can't understand how Borland will provide the full cycle for
developers (ALM) without own IDE?

--
With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
EMail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
http://www.scalabium.com

Andrew,

> And, I've started using Borland based compilers a looong time
> ago (TC v1.x and TP v3.x) and I feel that the ALM and SDO
> business are the ones that should be spinned of to another
> name.

If I'm understanding you correctly - you think that Borland Delphi/C is the
better pick of the bunch?

I'm not sure that Borland avoiding the others, and keeping Borland Studio is
the best idea. Personally, I'm concerned (like a lot) about this sale, but
if I want to be realistic - I feel that Borland started to loose the plot a
number of years ago.

Originally when Delphi came out - well, I guess it was the flagship, so it
got much attention, but over the years, I really feel like Borland's lost
interest in it, and the developers who use it.

I guess my greatest concern is that it will be either bought my Micro$osft,
and then dumped, to try and make everyone move over to their other products,
or it will be sold to some other company who tends to make bad decisions
with it's software anyway.

But, if the risk pays off, it will (hopefully) be sold to a company who
really wants to make a go of it, and make it the flagship again - putting
much thought into it, and hopefully just as much into support.

I was considering upgrading to D2006 (Currently on D7), and like many I
guess I will wait to see what happens, and hope for the best. I've become
too comfortable with pascal, and I've got too much code to want to switch
over to another platform.

Does anyone really think that Mac, Google or IBM would really be interested
in this? Is it really in their field?

Cheers

Adam.