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Thread OT: Microsoft Delphi?
Tue, Feb 14 2006 10:34 PMPermanent Link

"Omik"
Would anyone here want Microsoft to buy Delphi? Just try for a second to
imagine Microsoft Delphi.

I really don't know, but I think MS would be worst company of Delphi even
though the have resources swimming in.

Tue, Feb 14 2006 11:51 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Omik,

IMHO Delphi has a shelf life = Win32 development, once that disappears so
will Delphi. Heaven help us when we are in the clutches of M$, but I don't
see any alternative.

--
Best regards

Steve

"Omik" <kimowaugh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Would anyone here want Microsoft to buy Delphi? Just try for a second to
> imagine Microsoft Delphi.
>
> I really don't know, but I think MS would be worst company of Delphi even
> though the have resources swimming in.
>
>

Wed, Feb 15 2006 5:08 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Steve


OK - why? Also how long do you think the shelf life is?

Roy Lambert
Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:21 AMPermanent Link

"Rijk van der Merwe"
Hi,

Yes, sadly I agree with Steve, Delphi will disappear with win32.
I would like to think 3-5 years max, unless Microsoft can't get people to
upgrade to Longhorn or whatever as soon as they like.

Rijk


"Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Steve
>
>
> OK - why? Also how long do you think the shelf life is?
>
> Roy Lambert
>

Wed, Feb 15 2006 7:01 AMPermanent Link

Michael Baytalsky

> IMHO Delphi has a shelf life = Win32 development, once that disappears so
> will Delphi. Heaven help us when we are in the clutches of M$, but I don't
> see any alternative.
My instincts tells me, that there's China in our future Wink
I'd risk to harass a wild guess, that some of Chinese investors
will be participating in purchasing significant shares of whatever
become new Delphi company and shift it into targeting Linux
back again. This is not so far fetched - Chinese picked up
IBM's division a few years ago. That would also be very much in
the interests of many European and Eastern European countries/markets
and it very much in line with their general movement towards
supporting Linux-like OS on governmental level. Nevertheless, as far
as US concerned, I will have to agree with you - unless there's a
miracle and new DelCo makes sudden improvement in quality and
marketing.

On another note, Delphi as is will not die, the worst thing that
can happen it will become a marginal open source tool but with its
current customer base it is very likely that someone will still maintain
it for years. I thought Clipper has died, and yet it is still around
and the two are not even comparable.

Cheers,
Michael
Wed, Feb 15 2006 4:43 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Roy,

> OK - why?

a. BDS is not that much better than Visual Studio (.NET wise)
b. BDS will always lag somewhat behind it in terms of NET support
c. VS is a lot cheaper than BDS (Enterprise and Architect flavours)
d. ObjectPascal devotees can use Chome

I hope I am totally wrong, but in an entirely .NET world I don't think
Delphi can complete and remain profitable.

> Also how long do you think the shelf life is?

Could be 10 years or more (if M$ OS's continue to support native Win32
applications), take DOS for example .. we still have customers running our
last DOS release which is more than 10 years old.
--
Best regards

Steve

"Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Steve
>
>
> OK - why? Also how long do you think the shelf life is?
>
> Roy Lambert
>

Wed, Feb 15 2006 4:47 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Mike,

> My instincts tells me, that there's China in our future Wink

As long as they don't change the IDE language .. I visited an Internet Cafe
when I was in China recently, and you would not believe how hard it was to
find my way around the PC ;-P

> On another note, Delphi as is will not die

Yes I agree, there are too many applications out there written in Delphi ..
I was meaning as a current commercial product.
--
Best regards

Steve

"Michael Baytalsky" <mike@contextsoft.com> wrote in message
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Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:30 PMPermanent Link

Jon Lloyd Duerdoth
Steve,

If you're right that will be all I need. I doubt that my brain
will handle coding and updates beyond that time... I guess I'm
just reacting to trying get d2006 up to speed with all the libraries
involved... not an easy task for this retiree!

Jon

> Could be 10 years or more (if M$ OS's continue to support native Win32
> applications), take DOS for example .. we still have customers running our
> last DOS release which is more than 10 years old.
Wed, Feb 15 2006 6:41 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Jon,

I reckon I'll still be coding in 10 years, but I'll hopefully be retired and
doing it totally for pleasure WinkI've got so many ideas and no where near
enough time to follow through Frown

--
Best regards

Steve

"Jon Lloyd Duerdoth" <jld@welshdragoncomputing.ca> wrote in message
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> Steve,
>
> If you're right that will be all I need. I doubt that my brain
> will handle coding and updates beyond that time... I guess I'm
> just reacting to trying get d2006 up to speed with all the libraries
> involved... not an easy task for this retiree!
>
> Jon
>
>> Could be 10 years or more (if M$ OS's continue to support native Win32
>> applications), take DOS for example .. we still have customers running
>> our last DOS release which is more than 10 years old.

Thu, Feb 16 2006 1:29 AMPermanent Link

"Ralf Bertoldi"
Michael,

> miracle and new DelCo makes sudden improvement in quality and

that's my new "word of the year"... : "DelCo"

Dexter was something everyone was waiting for... I think since now it
will be "DelCo"...

Frown
ralf
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