Jon


This is interesting. I'm sure you lot are trying to persuade me not to buy D2006


Roy Lambert

> D7 still looks good.
Jon, I had the smae problem with D3 and D7 too

--
With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
EMail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
http://www.scalabium.com

> D7 still looks good.
It sure does, but I'm getting spoiled with refactoring, help inside
and docked designer/paletter very easily I'm actually beginning to
like it in docked view - once you customize it properly and unpin
some of the unnecessary dockers, so they hide themselves, it
really works nice. Plenty of space, easy to access tool paletter
(Alt+Ctrl+P, they could've made better shortcut, though).
I'm yet to test it some more as far as compiler concerned and if
its true, that the compiler has improved as much as they promised,
I might switch some of my newer projects to it.
I really dislike the new help, though... Even after you find the
topic, it's kind of hard to read... I also hate those blue round
dots in form designer - why did they have to fix what's not broken
- I didn't ask them to try and cheer me up.


Michael




>
> Jon
>
> Michael Baytalsky wrote:
>>
>>> Nope that doesn't do it.
>>> Every time I drop to the desktop with [Windows] D
>> I tried to reproduce it and was only lucky one time in undocked
>> mode to get top portion disappear. Then I clicked right mouse button
>> on Delphi's tray button and selected Restore and everything restored
>> just fine. After that, I was unable to reproduce it again.
>> (Seem to only happens once after start). It behaves strangely in
>> undocked mode, I give them that. It doesn't react on Logo-M
>> shortcut too.
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>> I lose the main menu when I return to D2006. If I close the
>>> open module and restore D2006 the menu then reappears and then I can
>>> restore the last open module. Tedious but it works.
>>>
>>> I guess I just have to stop dropping to the desktop
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Mike Shkolnik wrote:
>>>>> Have you run into the disappearing main menu problem.
>>>>> I find, on many occasions, flipping to other application
>>>>> I can't restore the main menu.  The other windows
>>>>> are restored but I don't have access to the
>>>>> main menu items.
>>>> Click a few times the Escape button and you'll see the main menu
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
>>>> E-mail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
>>>> WEB: http://www.scalabium.com
>>>>
>>>>

Roy

> This is interesting. I'm sure you lot are trying to persuade me not to  
> buy D2006

Actually, I was going to start applying guilt/pressure for you to do so,  
just to make me feel better about doing so. In light of Borland's  
divestment announcement, I'm glad I did. My first choice was to find D7  
but this just isn't (legally) possible anymore. I doubt that BDS2006 is  
"Best fo Breed," but to me it's insurance in case it's "Last of Breed." As  
Oly said a few years ago, "I fear I may be coding C# in my old age." At  
least with BDS I don't have to pay for the platform to learn on.

My beloved D5 was released before win2000, and I need to ensure I have the  
capabilities I need to proceed onward. It keeps my options open. D5 is now  
a seven-year-old compiler. D2006 really isn't that bad, and I had no  
install problems, but I think you want to have a fairly beefy machine to  
keep it happy, as there is much overhead compared to D5-D7.

--
 Neal
  ...temporarily visiting America

Michael,

I'm also beginning to like it (once I get over the
"where do I find it" problems.  I'm happy to have
upgraded (even tho' it may be my last).

Don't like the help... it's a uSoft thing that Borland seemed to
think they had to adopt?

Jon

Michael Baytalsky wrote:
>
>
>> D7 still looks good.
> It sure does, but I'm getting spoiled with refactoring, help inside
> and docked designer/paletter very easily I'm actually beginning to
> like it in docked view - once you customize it properly and unpin
> some of the unnecessary dockers, so they hide themselves, it
> really works nice. Plenty of space, easy to access tool paletter
> (Alt+Ctrl+P, they could've made better shortcut, though).
> I'm yet to test it some more as far as compiler concerned and if
> its true, that the compiler has improved as much as they promised,
> I might switch some of my newer projects to it.
> I really dislike the new help, though... Even after you find the
> topic, it's kind of hard to read... I also hate those blue round
> dots in form designer - why did they have to fix what's not broken
> - I didn't ask them to try and cheer me up.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> Michael Baytalsky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nope that doesn't do it.
>>>> Every time I drop to the desktop with [Windows] D
>>> I tried to reproduce it and was only lucky one time in undocked
>>> mode to get top portion disappear. Then I clicked right mouse button
>>> on Delphi's tray button and selected Restore and everything restored
>>> just fine. After that, I was unable to reproduce it again.
>>> (Seem to only happens once after start). It behaves strangely in
>>> undocked mode, I give them that. It doesn't react on Logo-M
>>> shortcut too.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I lose the main menu when I return to D2006. If I close the
>>>> open module and restore D2006 the menu then reappears and then I can
>>>> restore the last open module. Tedious but it works.
>>>>
>>>> I guess I just have to stop dropping to the desktop
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> Mike Shkolnik wrote:
>>>>>> Have you run into the disappearing main menu problem.
>>>>>> I find, on many occasions, flipping to other application
>>>>>> I can't restore the main menu.  The other windows
>>>>>> are restored but I don't have access to the
>>>>>> main menu items.
>>>>> Click a few times the Escape button and you'll see the main menu
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
>>>>> E-mail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
>>>>> WEB: http://www.scalabium.com
>>>>>
>>>>>

Jon

>By the way, with the main menu
>"disappeared", it's really easy to crash D2006

That could explain a lot - especially with the ease with which the main menu disappears!

Roy Lambert