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Thread Delphi 2006 Pro... Yea or Nay?
Tue, Jun 20 2006 9:40 PMPermanent Link

David
Thinking about getting Delphi 2006 Pro.

So I would have programs in D5, D7 and now D2006.  Smile

So is D2006 Pro as good as I have read?
Wed, Jun 21 2006 1:30 AMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi David,

The IDE is quite different and took me a while to get used to. I am now
using D2006 about 50% of the time and have become quite used to it. I have
not experienced any of the stability or speed issues some have reported. I
like it, however, IMO there is are no hugely compelling reasons to upgrade,
particularly if you are staying with Win32 development. I guess the key
factor is whether your favourite component suites will continue to be
supported and enhanced on the D7 platform.

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Steve

"David" <dpuett@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Thinking about getting Delphi 2006 Pro.
>
> So I would have programs in D5, D7 and now D2006.  Smile
>
> So is D2006 Pro as good as I have read?
>

Wed, Jun 21 2006 2:50 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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David


My vote would be a tentative no. The IDE is different, better in some ways (I've grown to like the component palette on the side) but there are far to many niggles. Some people seem not to experience any, for others it's become almost unusable.

In my personal case I seem to have tremendous difficulty installing new components (I installed PowerPDF yesterday and it took 3 closes of the IDE and a reboot to get things to work) and some (most) of the code completion enhancements drive me round the bend and have been switched off.

Oh yes and the OLH STINKS big time.

My main driver for upgrading from D6 was I wanted to upgrade WPTools, needed to keep using the previous version and they were even worse for co-existence than DBISAM.

With lots of the new enhancements disabled the IDE is almost as good as D6 in terms of use but things like installing new components and positioning components in the palette are a problem.

Go and browse the borland.public.delphi.ide.general newsgroup for good and bad news.

Roy Lambert
Wed, Jun 21 2006 6:59 AMPermanent Link

FWIW, I bought D2006 due to my experience with D5 & D7. I'm essentially
trying to buy the "good ones" so that I can move to them carefully and not
get stuck. One company I work with only has D5, and it is causing stress
with components and requirements. If they'd bought D7 when it was
available, they could be using that now. D2006 is apparently quite good,
and when I'm upgrading my components they get installed into D2006 too.
One day I'll be able to switch to using it and find everything just works.

On the other hand, maybe holding the cash to give it to DevCo's first
release may help them?

/Matthew Jones/
Wed, Jun 21 2006 10:57 AMPermanent Link

Jon Lloyd Duerdoth
David,

I bought in on a whim (sp?) and had a lot of getting started
issues that seem to have been resolved with the latest service
pack. I like many of the features although it took some time
to get used to the new layout.

I'm not doing anything I couldn't have done with D7 tho'
In other words there was no compelling reason for me to get D2006
other than "let's try something new" Smile

Jon

David wrote:
> Thinking about getting Delphi 2006 Pro.
>
> So I would have programs in D5, D7 and now D2006.  Smile
>
> So is D2006 Pro as good as I have read?
>
Sat, Jun 24 2006 8:38 AMPermanent Link

Graham Wood
Do it.  The only thing that'll annoy you is that after you build a component package, you
need to copy the bpls to the windows/system32 folder 'before' you install the package.  Or
things get... um... ugly Smile

One small thing I've noticed just recently as well, is that apps built with debug info
left in (for clients who use EurekaLog for example), seem to be about the 20 to 30 percent
mark slower in operation than the same app built with Delphi 7.  Don't know why.  Stranger
still is that apps built without debug info in BDS2006 are no slower at all.

Stability wise, it all comes down to what third party IDE stuff you use.  GExperts is
giving me hell with BDS2006, but never causes any problems under Delphi 7.

Eventually you're going to have to upgrade, and if history is anything to go by, it's not
going to get less painfull.

Just my $0.02.

HTH,
Graham W.
Sat, Jun 24 2006 9:25 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Graham

>Stability wise, it all comes down to what third party IDE stuff you use. GExperts is
>giving me hell with BDS2006, but never causes any problems under Delphi 7.

Strangely enough it causes me no problems at all Smiley

Roy Lambert
Sun, Jun 25 2006 12:32 PMPermanent Link

Jon Lloyd Duerdoth
GExperts works great for me...you are using the latest version?

Jon

Roy Lambert wrote:
> Graham
>
>> Stability wise, it all comes down to what third party IDE stuff you use. GExperts is
>> giving me hell with BDS2006, but never causes any problems under Delphi 7.
>
> Strangely enough it causes me no problems at all Smiley
>
> Roy Lambert
>
Thu, Jul 6 2006 1:06 PMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

David


I'm changing my vote to a definitive DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!!!!

<rant on>

Altering some of my home brew components - doddle in D6  absolute nightmare in D2006. Plus its habit of choosing the directory it feels you should look for the last project opened seemingly at random and the debugger rarely stops near where the bug was and right clicking a procedure name and clicking find declaration generally ends in the right unit but less often at the right procedure.

</rant on>

Roy Lambert
Thu, Jul 6 2006 5:41 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Roy,

Have to say that I've not experienced any of those problems. BDS2006 has
been well behaved for me.

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Steve
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