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Tue, Oct 17 2006 4:05 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Rick,

<< Yep, been there... don't ever wanna go back.  We were without power and
phone (even cell service) for about a week after Katrina hit.  Luckily our
town had a guy with a generator and enough fuel to keep the water going so
we actually had running water. Most places around didn't even have that. (no
hot water, though we really didn't need it as hot was it was.) >>

This was a walk in the park compared to Katrina, but that certainly won't
prevent me from complaining anyways. Smiley It's funny that you mention
water - in Niagara County (us) the pumping and treatment stations had
adequate backup generators so that they could keep going strong throughout
the whole ordeal, whereas in Erie County (Buffalo) they weren't so lucky and
were advised not to drink the water without boiling it, provided that there
was enough water pressure to even get running water.  It's very scary the
way failures like this tend to cascade and expose other weaknesses in the
infrastructure.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Oct 17 2006 4:07 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Matthew,

<< I have to ask though, why not put the servers in a data centre which
would be less vulnerable to outages? >>

Mainly because our whole setup is predicate on having fast, local access to
the data from our web server.  It would take quite a bit of modifications to
externalize the web server, and power outages like this are very, very
infrequent for this area (remember, we're right next to Niagara Falls).  We
have battery backups that lasted about 1 1/2 hours, but after that amount of
time around here it means that the power is going to be out for a while.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Oct 17 2006 4:09 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Ralf,

<< Then you should get a 3 phase power generator, or move to Germany SmileThe
longest power outage I remmeber was for about 2.5 hours. >>

We're considering getting a generator to keep the servers, etc. running.
This whole situation was a fluke of monstrous proportions.  The record for
snow in October around here was 5 or 6 inches, and that was on Oct 31 some
30+ years ago.  We got 8-9 inches in the middle of October with the leaves
still on the trees.  It's just unheard of around here.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Oct 17 2006 4:21 PMPermanent Link

"R. Tipton"
I often see thrm cables in US movies lovely houses
and ugly wires just hanging from pole to pole.
I'am also a fan of This Old House and the last one
I watched, Tommy had the powerlines run underground
from the road.
I dont think your alone on this though we do it in rural
areas. One other thing that gets my goat is unlit motorway.
Maggie Thatcher said in 1978 every inch would be lit,
we are still waiting.
Rita

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> Rita,
>
> << Ok take the situation as a tidbit, dont plant trees near powerlines or
> better still run powerlines undeground.  Every year in the UK we have
> either water drought in the summer, snow blocked roads or problems like
> Tim had, nothing changes. The latest one for me this summer my Sky sat
> kept going down at around 13:10 until 1500 I phoned sky  the lady said the
> cable from my dish could be getting  hot. I hosed it nothing happened its
> no longer summer if it starts next year I will get a new install with a
> huge disc. >>
>
> Most of downtown Buffalo has underground power lines, but as you get out
> into the burbs like where we're at, it's a bunch of small towns and cities
> with tree-lined streets and the power lines intertwined with them. Frown
> The counts I saw on the news were between 350,000 and 390,000 homes
> without power.  I'll see if I can get some pictures posted of the
> carnage - there were trees and large portions of trees laying everywhere.
> Very surreal.
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Tue, Oct 17 2006 6:28 PMPermanent Link

Jon Lloyd Duerdoth
Let me know if you want info on the generator I installed.
It has an auto switching/startup system and seems to be pretty
stable as far as voltage and frequency output is concerned. I
still do some line conditioning with an APC unit tho'

Jon


Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> Ralf,
>
> << Then you should get a 3 phase power generator, or move to Germany SmileThe
> longest power outage I remmeber was for about 2.5 hours. >>
>
> We're considering getting a generator to keep the servers, etc. running.
> This whole situation was a fluke of monstrous proportions.  The record for
> snow in October around here was 5 or 6 inches, and that was on Oct 31 some
> 30+ years ago.  We got 8-9 inches in the middle of October with the leaves
> still on the trees.  It's just unheard of around here.
>
Wed, Oct 18 2006 4:03 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Jon,

<< Let me know if you want info on the generator I installed.  It has an
auto switching/startup system and seems to be pretty stable as far as
voltage and frequency output is concerned. I still do some line conditioning
with an APC unit tho' >>

Sure, just send it via email.

Thanks a lot,

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

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