Just decided to load D2006 and switch to using it for
development since all the 3rd party vendors I use had
released the appropriate maintenance releases.

First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking
up during the install presumeably when it was ready to move
to the next CD. I would reboot the computer and start again
and it would resart the install but this time correctly ask
for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it would lock up again when
it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4 times to get
through all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after all
that I ended up with a bad install since the first time I
played around with a pretty simple form it generated an
error on closing the IDE in coreide.dll and failed on a
second error when trying to send the error report to
borland. All this before installing ANY 3rd party
components. I can't find a TDatasource component anywhere,
so I guess I have to install the BDE to get it.

Not a real confidence builder out of the box! Regardless,
coming from D6 the IDE is unrecognizable. I can't stand the
"tool palette" as a substitute for the component palette. I
think I am going to stick to D6 for a while. I would advise
others to stay away from D2006 for win32 development unless
they are ready for some big changes or have to develop for .NET!

Hope this saves somebody some grief,

Sean

Hi Sean,

If you follow borland's newsgroups you can see that allmost every people are
very happy with BDS2006, though there are few (like you), which have strange
issues.

I'll suggest, that you copy all of the 4 CD's to the harddisk (overwriting
existing files), and try to install again. I also assume that all presteps
are done already?

Regards,
Hüseyin




"Sean McCall" <NoSpam@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:C3D04641-9DB1-4E69-BA0F-6B19FEC396C7@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Just decided to load D2006 and switch to using it for development since
> all the 3rd party vendors I use had released the appropriate maintenance
> releases.
>
> First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during the
> install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I would
> reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the install but
> this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it would lock up
> again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4 times to get through
> all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after all that I ended up with a
> bad install since the first time I played around with a pretty simple form
> it generated an error on closing the IDE in coreide.dll and failed on a
> second error when trying to send the error report to borland. All this
> before installing ANY 3rd party components. I can't find a TDatasource
> component anywhere, so I guess I have to install the BDE to get it.
>
> Not a real confidence builder out of the box! Regardless, coming from D6
> the IDE is unrecognizable. I can't stand the "tool palette" as a
> substitute for the component palette. I think I am going to stick to D6
> for a while. I would advise others to stay away from D2006 for win32
> development unless they are ready for some big changes or have to develop
> for .NET!
>
> Hope this saves somebody some grief,
>
> Sean

Huseyin,

Yep.. all the pre-install steps were completed. The install
won't run without them. Not a bad idea to start over and
copy the CDs to the hard drive. I'll give it a shot next
time I do the install. For now, since I don't care much for
the IDE and since my initial experience was so sour, I feel
more comfortable sticking to D6. I'll probably try again
when the first patch comes out.

Sean

Hüseyin Aliz wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> If you follow borland's newsgroups you can see that allmost every people are
> very happy with BDS2006, though there are few (like you), which have strange
> issues.
>
> I'll suggest, that you copy all of the 4 CD's to the harddisk (overwriting
> existing files), and try to install again. I also assume that all presteps
> are done already?
>
> Regards,
> Hüseyin
>
>
>
>
> "Sean McCall" <NoSpam@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:C3D04641-9DB1-4E69-BA0F-6B19FEC396C7@news.elevatesoft.com...
>
>>Just decided to load D2006 and switch to using it for development since
>>all the 3rd party vendors I use had released the appropriate maintenance
>>releases.
>>
>>First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during the
>>install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I would
>>reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the install but
>>this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it would lock up
>>again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4 times to get through
>>all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after all that I ended up with a
>>bad install since the first time I played around with a pretty simple form
>>it generated an error on closing the IDE in coreide.dll and failed on a
>>second error when trying to send the error report to borland. All this
>>before installing ANY 3rd party components. I can't find a TDatasource
>>component anywhere, so I guess I have to install the BDE to get it.
>>
>>Not a real confidence builder out of the box! Regardless, coming from D6
>>the IDE is unrecognizable. I can't stand the "tool palette" as a
>>substitute for the component palette. I think I am going to stick to D6
>>for a while. I would advise others to stay away from D2006 for win32
>>development unless they are ready for some big changes or have to develop
>>for .NET!
>>
>>Hope this saves somebody some grief,
>>
>>Sean
>
>
>

Hi Sean,

The first patch is already out
Second is maybe on the way. Copying the files to the harddisk does
installation easier-faster, but offcourse it requires that you have 2-3 GB
on the disk just for this purpose.

Here's the tips/tricks i saved from the newsgroups regarding optimizing
D2006:

- disable error insight (this permit to load very long pascal files)
- disable show palette wizards and enable always show designer items (this
permit to switch between forms<->code immediately)
- in default toggle the components that you not use (so to load fewer BPL
on the startup)


If you dont need StarTeam:

In the registry,
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Borland\BDS\4.0\Known IDE
Packages,
delete the value for stide100.bpl.

I am sure there is more, but this is what i got of information reading the
borland's newsgrops

Good luck.

Regards,
Hüseyin



"Sean McCall" <NoSpam@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:30750E25-D182-48A6-895B-CE5766FBFE3C@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Huseyin,
>
> Yep.. all the pre-install steps were completed. The install won't run
> without them. Not a bad idea to start over and copy the CDs to the hard
> drive. I'll give it a shot next time I do the install. For now, since I
> don't care much for the IDE and since my initial experience was so sour, I
> feel more comfortable sticking to D6. I'll probably try again when the
> first patch comes out.
>
> Sean
>
> Hüseyin Aliz wrote:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> If you follow borland's newsgroups you can see that allmost every people
>> are very happy with BDS2006, though there are few (like you), which have
>> strange issues.
>>
>> I'll suggest, that you copy all of the 4 CD's to the harddisk
>> (overwriting existing files), and try to install again. I also assume
>> that all presteps are done already?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hüseyin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sean McCall" <NoSpam@nowhere.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:C3D04641-9DB1-4E69-BA0F-6B19FEC396C7@news.elevatesoft.com...
>>
>>>Just decided to load D2006 and switch to using it for development since
>>>all the 3rd party vendors I use had released the appropriate maintenance
>>>releases.
>>>
>>>First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during the
>>>install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I would
>>>reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the install but
>>>this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it would lock up
>>>again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4 times to get through
>>>all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after all that I ended up with
>>>a bad install since the first time I played around with a pretty simple
>>>form it generated an error on closing the IDE in coreide.dll and failed
>>>on a second error when trying to send the error report to borland. All
>>>this before installing ANY 3rd party components. I can't find a
>>>TDatasource component anywhere, so I guess I have to install the BDE to
>>>get it.
>>>
>>>Not a real confidence builder out of the box! Regardless, coming from D6
>>>the IDE is unrecognizable. I can't stand the "tool palette" as a
>>>substitute for the component palette. I think I am going to stick to D6
>>>for a while. I would advise others to stay away from D2006 for win32
>>>development unless they are ready for some big changes or have to develop
>>>for .NET!
>>>
>>>Hope this saves somebody some grief,
>>>
>>>Sean
>>
>>

Sean McCall wrote:

> Hope this saves somebody some grief,

Actually your experience with D2006 is not what most people are
experiencing.  I have installed in on several machines, both clean
machines and machines with everything from D1 to VS2005 without a
problem.
--
David Farrell-Garcia
Whidbey Island Software LLC

Posted with XanaNews 1.17.6.6

Hello Sean,

> First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during
> the install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I
> would reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the
> install but this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it
> would lock up again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4 times
> to get through all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after all that
> I ended up with a bad install since the first time I played around with
> a pretty simple form it generated an error on closing the IDE in
> coreide.dll and failed on a second error when trying to send the error
> report to borland. All this before installing ANY 3rd party components.
> I can't find a TDatasource component anywhere, so I guess I have to
> install the BDE to get it.

For your installer problems do a reinstall at your
windows or try to update your windows installer at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=889482FC-5F56-4A38-B838-DE776FD4138C&displaylang=en

Delphi 2006 is superb, just you need to get used it it =)

--
Charalabos Michael - [Creation Power] - http://www.creationpower.com -
http://www.creationpower.gr

Thanks guys,

I'm going to give it another try today. I am downloading the
new windows installer now & will try the tips from Huseyin.

Figures I would be the 1 in 1000 who has issues. If a
product is going to have a problem, I usually seem to be the
guy who it happens to. My new foosball table came with a
bubble in the playing surface, the replacement came with the
rods in the wrong places, my luggage gets lost about 1 in
every 5 flights, and when I order things over the internet
and they come wrong or broken the response is almost always
"that's never happened before!". Even ordering D2006, the
web site didn't work with the 15% pre-order discount & I had
to do it over the phone.

Fortunately, things almost always work out ok in the end &
hopefully the same will be true of D2006.

Sean

Charalabos Michael wrote:
> Hello Sean,
>
>> First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during
>> the install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I
>> would reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the
>> install but this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it
>> would lock up again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4
>> times to get through all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after
>> all that I ended up with a bad install since the first time I played
>> around with a pretty simple form it generated an error on closing the
>> IDE in coreide.dll and failed on a second error when trying to send
>> the error report to borland. All this before installing ANY 3rd party
>> components. I can't find a TDatasource component anywhere, so I guess
>> I have to install the BDE to get it.
>
>
> For your installer problems do a reinstall at your
> windows or try to update your windows installer at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=889482FC-5F56-4A38-B838-DE776FD4138C&displaylang=en
>
>
> Delphi 2006 is superb, just you need to get used it it =)
>

Hey Sean,

Do not feel alone.  I had the same problem installing D2006 on my Dell dual-core / Windows XP Pro64.

I edited the registry and disabled the autorun feature of the CD drive and all installed just fine.  I also disabled the autorun feature to prevent
any installation of rootkits from idiots who are adding them to audio and software distribution disks.  I wish Microsoft would not allow their
operating system utilities to be edited where a user can no longer see certain installed files on a drive or executing processes in task manager...
but that is another issue.

I've stayed with Delphi 7.0 until now.  I'm trying to give D2006 a chance.  It's not too bad.  Some of the autocomplete is cool.  Having the project
manager on screen to jump around to different files in the project and the structure panel to quickly jump around the code in a single file is nice.  
I have to agree about the tool palette... I'm not quite sold on that panel nor the alignment help on the forms.  I like to snap to the grid a little
closer than they are allowing.  The others are correct... give it some time.

My biggest problem... can't install DBISAM Version 3.30... and our customers are not willing to migrate terabytes of data to Version 4.x (or 5.x)
after spending so much time migrating from BDE and Advantage.  We've got to give them just a little more time to settle in.

What's a guy to do but beg Tim for sympathy... and just one more version of 3.x!  

David L.


Sean McCall <NoSpam@nowhere.com> wrote:

Thanks guys,

I'm going to give it another try today. I am downloading the
new windows installer now & will try the tips from Huseyin.

Figures I would be the 1 in 1000 who has issues. If a
product is going to have a problem, I usually seem to be the
guy who it happens to. My new foosball table came with a
bubble in the playing surface, the replacement came with the
rods in the wrong places, my luggage gets lost about 1 in
every 5 flights, and when I order things over the internet
and they come wrong or broken the response is almost always
"that's never happened before!". Even ordering D2006, the
web site didn't work with the 15% pre-order discount & I had
to do it over the phone.

Fortunately, things almost always work out ok in the end &
hopefully the same will be true of D2006.

Sean

Charalabos Michael wrote:
> Hello Sean,
>
>> First, I had a terrible time installing it. It kept locking up during
>> the install presumeably when it was ready to move to the next CD. I
>> would reboot the computer and start again and it would resart the
>> install but this time correctly ask for a CD switch. Unfortunately, it
>> would lock up again when it was ready for the next CD. Did this 4
>> times to get through all 4 CDs I needed. I can only guess that after
>> all that I ended up with a bad install since the first time I played
>> around with a pretty simple form it generated an error on closing the
>> IDE in coreide.dll and failed on a second error when trying to send
>> the error report to borland. All this before installing ANY 3rd party
>> components. I can't find a TDatasource component anywhere, so I guess
>> I have to install the BDE to get it.
>
>
> For your installer problems do a reinstall at your
> windows or try to update your windows installer at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=889482FC-5F56-4A38-B838-DE776FD4138C&displaylang=en
>
>
> Delphi 2006 is superb, just you need to get used it it =)
>

On 1/5/06 1:33 PM, in article
C3D04641-9DB1-4E69-BA0F-6B19FEC396C7@news.elevatesoft.com, "Sean McCall"
<NoSpam@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I think I am going to stick to D6 for a while.

I thought the word on the street was buy odd numbered releases and avoid the
even numbered ones.

Sean


How are you getting on with D2006 now? I'm thinking of taking the plunge and upgrading from D6 myself.

Roy Lambert