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Delphi 2007 |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 1:17 PM | Permanent Link |
"Jose Eduardo Helminsky" | I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or
CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from Delphi 6 SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio also known as "Delphi 2007 for Win32". Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005, BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata). Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I donīt think so. New features ? I canīt see nothing absolutelety new. Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it time to code .NET ? Eduardo |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 2:09 PM | Permanent Link |
"Henri" | Jose,
See my experience below... Henri "Jose Eduardo Helminsky" <contato@hpro.com.br> schreef in bericht news:62256808-526C-4552-B66C-A2AAAE1A8801@news.elevatesoft.com... >I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or >CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from Delphi 6 >SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio also known as "Delphi 2007 for Win32". I also moved from Delphi 6 (under winXP) to Delphi 2007 (under Vista). No problems here > > Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005, > BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack > installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb > RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata). I have also a Dell with the same specs, again no problems > > Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what > we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very > hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla Delphi 2007 Help, yes still terrible, I for one miss the examples and simple explenation of the properties and methods of the (new visual) VCL/RTL library. > > Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I donīt think so. > > New features ? I canīt see nothing absolutelety new. Only some vista/xp gui components, but i agee with you that it is not spectacular > > Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it time to code .NET ? Mayby Chrome has a future? It looks good Does anyone out here has experiance with Chrome? > > Eduardo > > |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 3:06 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Eduardo,
<< Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005, BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata). >> I actually like D2007. What bugs are you running into ? We compile the EDB Manager and Server that we ship with D2007, so it seems pretty stable to us. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 4:33 PM | Permanent Link |
"Fons Neelen" | Hi,
> Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005, > BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack > installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb > RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata). No problem here. In fact, I find D2007 the best ever - been using Delphi since v1. It is solid, fast and I like the IDE a whole lot better than the D7 one, yes, it does take some time to get used to, but it is really better. > Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what > we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very > hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla Help is quite bad. That's why I still have the D7 help files > Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I donīt think so. In my view, you're wrong. Please notice that bad 3rd party components and add-ins can make it unstable. > New features ? I canīt see nothing absolutelety new. Not as fas as components go, but the IDE is way better and the compiler itself is also somewhat better. > Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it time to code .NET ? No comment. Says it all, don't you think Fons |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 7:24 PM | Permanent Link |
Lance Rasmussen Jazzie Software Team Elevate | D2007 has been pretty solid. I think it meets the expectation of what the
gang at Codegear were trying to do... make it a new favorite to replace D7. Performance is pretty good (especially compared to D2005). Help is not the same, but face it... we have to move on and MSHelp2 is where they've gone. So that's probably the worse thing I hate. However their doc team has been doing better in filling in the gaps. And there were some very good reasons why the help was in bad shape, when Codegear explained them. |
Fri, Apr 25 2008 9:34 PM | Permanent Link |
"Ian Branch" | FWIW..
D2007 was the first version to entice me away from D7. I have now moved everything to D2007 and removed D7. Regards, Ian -- |
Sat, Apr 26 2008 3:54 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | Jose
I went from D6 to D2006 the OLH stinks, yet another wonderful product from M$ but apart from that its pretty good. However, reading the CodeGear ngs user experience varies wildy, and its not just down to 3rd party stuff. There seems to be no common theme some people just suffer whilst the rest are fine. It does take time to get used to the new IDE layout but I've managed it and now like it, apart from when it starts being "helpful". One thing I found helped tremendously was to get rid of starteam, together, templates etc ie a lot of the things that were meant to make it so much better. Roy Lambert |
Sat, Apr 26 2008 5:13 AM | Permanent Link |
"Hershcu S" | I'm also using D2007 for several months
Yes is stable and has several nice addons but, (and from my point of view it's a big but), the applications are not fasters compare to application created with D7 or even previous version. Sorin |
Sat, Apr 26 2008 3:56 PM | Permanent Link |
Dan Rootham | Sorin,
<< it's a big but:... the applications are not faster compared to application created with D7 or even previous version >> Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile, or faster when run as an application? Thanks, Dan |
Sun, Apr 27 2008 2:27 AM | Permanent Link |
"Hershcu S" | Mostly faster to run an application
Sorin > > Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile, > or faster when run as an application? > > Thanks, > Dan > |
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