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Thread Searching the web site
Tue, Apr 18 2006 3:22 PMPermanent Link

What would really help me in my use of DBISAM is a way to search all the
good articles on your web site. I reckon there is something there, but I
have to browse all the links to find it. It would be well worth the time.
(Okay, I guess you have a project to finish first, but it is a pity.)

FWIW, I'm looking for more info on how to use the "DataSource" of a query.
The help says how to use it, but no example to work from to "know" that
I've got the parameters right.

/Matthew Jones/
Wed, Apr 19 2006 3:26 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Matthew


<shameless plug>
Download TMaN, use that as your newsreader and you've got good search facilities. Even better its offline
</shameless plug>

Roy Lambert
Wed, Apr 19 2006 4:15 AMPermanent Link

Well, the obscure newsreader I currently use (Ameol) allows that, but I
was hoping for articles rather than q&a. In fact, I found an example of
what I was looking for in the DevExpress help on master-detail, and my
guess turned out to be correct. My posting was really a general request to
make the web site articles more useful rather than a specific question.

/Matthew Jones/
Wed, Apr 19 2006 5:34 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Matthew


If you think its bad trying to find things in these ngs you should try WPTools. On-line only and its search engine doesn't seem to be 100% capable - its a good product and often the answers are there but Monday I was searching for 2 - 3 hours to find what I wanted.

Roy Lambert
Wed, Apr 19 2006 8:36 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Email timyoung@elevatesoft.com

Matthew,

<< What would really help me in my use of DBISAM is a way to search all the
good articles on your web site. I reckon there is something there, but I
have to browse all the links to find it. It would be well worth the time.
(Okay, I guess you have a project to finish first, but it is a pity.) >>

I'll see what I can do.  It's something that has been on the list for some
time now, but given that the online help is searchable, it hasn't been a
huge priority.

<< FWIW, I'm looking for more info on how to use the "DataSource" of a
query. The help says how to use it, but no example to work from to "know"
that I've got the parameters right. >>

The parameters are set up in the SQL SELECT statement just like with any
other parameterized query.  Just make sure that the parameter names in the
detail query match the field names in the DataSource dataset that you want
to drive the detail query, and you're all set.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Wed, Apr 19 2006 10:55 AMPermanent Link

> Just make sure that the parameter names in the
> detail query match the field names in the DataSource dataset that you
> want to drive the detail query, and you're all set.

It was that little bit that I didn't realise.

/Matthew Jones/
Thu, Apr 20 2006 11:22 AMPermanent Link

"John Seward"
Matthew,

>> What would really help me in my use of DBISAM is a way to search all
the good articles on your web site. <<

I'm always surprised when people ask Tim for this. The entire site,
//including// the newsgroup material (since Elevate's software
"republishes" this in web form) is available through the regular search
engines. And thus all the features of any available search engine, are
already at everyone's disposal.

Chances are that submitting something like

   datasource query site:elevatesoft.com

to Google will get some decent results. Or:

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&q=datasource+query+paramet
er+site%3Aelevatesoft.com



[Aside: Tim, maybe you could add some HTML code (<meta name="robots"
content="noindex,nofollow">) to your web forms that accept newsgroup
messages, so that the search engines don't needlessly pick up those
entry forms as well (in the process of following all links). Since
these forms duplicate the message someone responds to, and are indexed
by the search engines, they uselessly clutter up search results.]


Of course, if the information isn't there, or we're not searching
"correctly" for it, we'll need to ask in the NGs. But it would seem (to
me) to be a large waste of effort for Tim to partially duplicate the
sort of functionality we already have in abundance from other sources.
Sources which can in fact be used on nearly all sites.
Thu, Apr 20 2006 12:37 PMPermanent Link

A good "quick" solution - agreed. A simple form on the support reference
page with some of these items pre-filled would save some time for those
who forget such tips.

FWIW, we use "Fluffy Search" on our web site which is all then self-
contained, but it only really works on static HTML I think.

/Matthew Jones/
Thu, Apr 20 2006 9:45 PMPermanent Link

"John Seward"
> A simple form on the support reference
> page with some of these items pre-filled would save some time for
> those who forget such tips.

That particular solution may involve some licensing issues...


In the meantime, here's some more help Smiley

 Google Users' Manual Comes In Handy
 April 20, 2006

http://www.courant.com/technology/hc-moran0420.artapr20,0,4987713.column
?coll=hc-utility-technology
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