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Tue, Jun 27 2006 7:32 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

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Erik

>Is there still any need to look at this, because Microsoft will stop support
>on the older Windows versions (98, ME and NT) on july 11....

Just cos M$ stops supporting it doesn't mean people will stop using it - there are still W95 machines out there

Roy Lambert
Tue, Jun 27 2006 12:26 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Erik,

<< Is there still any need to look at this, because Microsoft will stop
support on the older Windows versions (98, ME and NT) on july 11.... >>

They can stop support on products because they can.  We, on the other
hand......... Smiley

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Wed, Jun 28 2006 2:00 AMPermanent Link

"Erik"
Yes,
of course you're both right.
But...  if your OS is that old, your computer will be old as well and a
replacement could be soon because of hardware failure... Smile

Erik




"Erik" <bellaard@wega.nl> schreef in bericht
news:73CFA6F6-0775-4C17-B20D-86E85A8B9700@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> Is there still any need to look at this, because Microsoft will stop
> support on the older Windows versions (98, ME and NT) on july 11....
>
> Erik
>
>
> "Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> schreef in
> bericht news:D956D889-D1BC-420A-8B24-17DADE6321E9@news.elevatesoft.com...
>> Graham,
>>
>> << Similar problem with mixed clients when one or more had Win98SE.  Only
>> solution is to get them to bite the bullet and go all XP.  Trust me, you
>> won't solve this.  MS knows about it, and so do major accounting package
>> vendors. >>
>>
>> Do you have any links regarding this ?  I've never heard of any issues
>> mixing the two other than the normal Windows 95/98 network redirector
>> issues.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Young
>> Elevate Software
>> www.elevatesoft.com
>>
>>
>
>

Mon, Jul 10 2006 3:28 AMPermanent Link

Jiskra
Hi Tim,
I would like to ask if you have found some solution for this problem. I made test
application with different "locale" - czech and ansi, and this has no effect. The reported
problem is still there. I have been asked from our customer, so I am asking you, if there
is some chance how to solve this problem.

Thank you for help.

Michal


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote:

Michal,

<< I am from the Czech republic, so the possible mutations of op. system
could be English, Czech. >>

Okay, then that is probably not the issue.

I will have to look into this further.  I've done some quick Google searches
and can't come up with anything definitive.  There are some reports from
others that are having a similar problem with other file-sharing database
installations, but nobody seems to know what is causing it.  I suspect that
the SMB protocol in the two OS's has changed in some way that is preventing
proper operation.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Jul 10 2006 1:21 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Michal,

<< I would like to ask if you have found some solution for this problem. I
made test application with different "locale" - czech and ansi, and this has
no effect. The reported problem is still there. I have been asked from our
customer, so I am asking you, if there is some chance how to solve this
problem. >>

It probably doesn't have anything to do with the locales.  I was just taking
a guess at the possible reason for the problem when you initially reported
it.  Since then I've checked Google and everywhere else I can find, and I've
found some people complaining about problems such as this on Google Groups,
but no definitive answer from anyone at MS regarding if there is indeed an
issue with the SMB (Server Message Block) protocol (used for file-sharing in
Windows) between Windows XP and earlier Windows 9x versions.  I've got a
clunker Windows 9x machine that I can try it on, but I first need to get it
all configured, etc. and that will take a few days.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Jul 10 2006 2:21 PMPermanent Link

Bernd Kuhlmann
Michal,

> Hi Tim,
> I would like to ask if you have found some solution for this problem. I
> made test application with different "locale" - czech and ansi, and this
> has no effect. The reported problem is still there. I have been asked from
> our customer, so I am asking you, if there is some chance how to solve
> this problem.

If your application is not to complex you could try to switch to
client/server.

Bernd Kuhlmann
Tue, Jul 11 2006 12:56 PMPermanent Link

> issue with the SMB (Server Message Block) protocol (used for
> file-sharing in Windows) between Windows XP and earlier Windows 9x
> versions.

There are well known issues with network drivers on older systems - a few
bytes here and there may cause all sorts of hassle. I wrote a tool to give
the network a hammering to see if it can cope. Most often it is interrupt
problems.
http://www.matthew-jones.com/download/integrity-checker.html

/Matthew Jones/
Mon, Jul 17 2006 2:07 AMPermanent Link

Jiskra
Hi Matthew,
thank for coperating on my problem. I have downloaded your tool and tryied it at my customer.
There were no errors during file transfer, so the problem is not in drivers or bad network
I supose.

Thanks
Michal


<matthew@matthewdelme-jones.delme.com (Matthew Jones)> wrote:

> issue with the SMB (Server Message Block) protocol (used for
> file-sharing in Windows) between Windows XP and earlier Windows 9x
> versions.

There are well known issues with network drivers on older systems - a few
bytes here and there may cause all sorts of hassle. I wrote a tool to give
the network a hammering to see if it can cope. Most often it is interrupt
problems.
http://www.matthew-jones.com/download/integrity-checker.html

/Matthew Jones/
Mon, Jul 17 2006 8:52 AMPermanent Link

My tool may of course not show it, but it is a good sign. You should run
it for a fair period, and exercise the network in other ways too at the
same time to make sure it is stable.

/Matthew Jones/
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