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Thu, Apr 16 2009 10:08 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Relyea" | I'm not sure if anyone suggested this, so here goes:
Could an updated SQL text editor be considered in the future? I am a stickler with properly formatted code. I like line wrapping, no extra white space, and a left margin to stay indented after I hit enter. It drives me a little batty having to hit tab 3x for each line so it looks "pretty" and formatted nicely. jr |
Fri, Apr 17 2009 12:48 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | James,
<< Could an updated SQL text editor be considered in the future? I am a stickler with properly formatted code. I like line wrapping, no extra white space, and a left margin to stay indented after I hit enter. It drives me a little batty having to hit tab 3x for each line so it looks "pretty" and formatted nicely. >> Sure, I'll add it to the list. However, could you elaborate on "line wrapping and no extra white space" ? -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Fri, Apr 17 2009 10:07 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Relyea" | > Sure, I'll add it to the list. However, could you elaborate on "line=20
> wrapping and no extra white space" ? Sure... I'll try: Line Wrapping: Instead of the code editing being 1 long line, it would = wrap to the next line automatically when the right margin is reached.=20 One example of this line wrapping behavior would be on your web site: = http://www.elevatesoft.com/prodinfo?action=3Dlist Open it then reduce = the width of the IE window. The entire page wraps as the browser window = resizes allowing all of the text to be read without any horizontal = scrolling until the window becomes too narrow. Notepad does the same (menu Format>Word Wrap to toggle it on and off). = VS supports it as an option too and adds a visual glyph to indicate the = line wraps. The benefit lets us read our entire block of code without needing to = scroll horizontally back and forth to view segments. I'm in the habit of = hitting enter now but I'd prefer to just type without thinking of the = right margin or line size. Extra White Space: Basically I can put the cursor any place in the = window and start typing even though i'm no where around my code. I find = myself constantly flipping between windows and when I flip back to any = EDB Mgrs running the cursor is put where I click the window instead of = where I left it. Won't happen with ALT + Tab but does when using the = mouse to put the focus back on any EDB Mgr with code being edited. I run = 30+ apps at any given time accross 3 displays so ALT + Tab doesn't work = out so well. So I click on the "wanted app" because it's always in view. = EDB moves my cursor from where I was typing to where I clicked because = it has extra virtual whitespace. VS & Winbatch both have a toggle on/off = but leave it off by default. For another example of how why I added dropping the virtual white space = as a request is because I'm used to a MS Word, VS, Notepad, IE URLs etc = behavior. With those, if you click past the end of a line, the cursor = lands @ the end of the line. EDB MGR puts the cursor where you clicked = instead of @ the line end. There are 2 benefits: 1. we would be able to blindly click past a line end and have the cursor = land on next character position in the line and keep on typing, like = most other Win apps do 2. we could put focus on the EDB Mgr window, not move the cursor from = where it was and keep on typing, also like most Win apps behave I hope these details helps explain it better. Thanks Tim! jr |
Tue, Apr 21 2009 1:54 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | James,
<< I hope these details helps explain it better. >> Yes, thank you. You'll be interested to know that the Delphi IDE does both of those things in the same manner as the EDB Manager, hence their origins. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Wed, Apr 22 2009 9:21 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Relyea" | > You'll be interested to know that the Delphi IDE does both of those things
> in the same manner as the EDB Manager, hence their origins. eeeeeewwwwwwwwww.Coming from a Windows world of apps & VB4 ->VS2008, I guess Delphi would kill me. Out of curiosity, VS allows the whitespace & line wrapping to be turned on & off. Does Delphi too? (hint hint maybe EDB mgr could too cuz all it is is a text editor) jr |
Thu, Apr 23 2009 4:56 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | James,
<< eeeeeewwwwwwwwww.Coming from a Windows world of apps & VB4 ->VS2008, I guess Delphi would kill me. Out of curiosity, VS allows the whitespace & line wrapping to be turned on & off. Does Delphi too? >> Yes, absolutely. << (hint hint maybe EDB mgr could too cuz all it is is a text editor) >> Well, it's a little more than just a simple text editor. Take a look at the source code in the edbutilcomps.pas unit some time if you want to know how difficult it is to write a syntax-highlighting SQL editor with debugging and context-sensitive help/tooltip expressions. It's about 5000 lines of code. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Thu, Apr 23 2009 9:22 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Relyea" | > syntax-highlighting SQL editor with debugging=20
> and context-sensitive help/tooltip expressions. It's about 5000 lines = of=20 > code. Oh, no... I'm not asking for any thing like intellisense at all. I'm = working just fine without it. All I'd really love to use is a text editor that includes line wrapping, = no virtual white space, keeps my cursor where I put it when I come back = to that window, & keeps my left margins lined up so when I indent them, = they stay indented 'cuz it keeps my code-- well-- nice and pretty ) Does that help? jr |
Thu, Apr 23 2009 10:20 PM | Permanent Link |
"James Relyea" | I misinterpreted this. Yes, I do find that quite helpful when coding by =
the way. I thought of VS's Intellisense when I replied back- that I = don't need. Sorry about that. > syntax-highlighting SQL editor with debugging=20 > and context-sensitive help/tooltip expressions. It's about 5000 = lines of=20 > code. >Oh, no... I'm not asking for any thing like intellisense at all. I'm = working just fine without it. |
Fri, Apr 24 2009 2:43 AM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | James
If you can come up with a set of rules that can be used to format sql I'll be happy to try and produce a stand alone utility which will do the formatting and we might be able to persuade Tim to incorporate it into EDBManager not as a live formatting option but more like the code formatter in GExperts. Roy Lambert |
Fri, Apr 24 2009 3:04 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | James,
<< All I'd really love to use is a text editor that includes line wrapping, no virtual white space, keeps my cursor where I put it when I come back to that window, & keeps my left margins lined up so when I indent them, they stay indented 'cuz it keeps my code-- well-- nice and pretty )>> The auto-indent and no white space features are easy, so I can do them pretty quickly. The word-wrapping is a different story, and will require quite a bit more time. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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