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Thread 2.28 install
Sat, Mar 31 2018 5:08 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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I'm building a nice big database to try 2.28 with. I have a partly developed but abandoned application which has a utility to build test data - its upto c230k people records so far and its taking quite a long time Smiley

I compiled that application under 2.27.

I know its a beta and things like this will be sorted in the release version but

I just went to install the 2.28b4 beta and found a small problem - it seems to be adding the delphi version as part of the path without me asking it to. I browse and select C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB but C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB\Developer Studio 2006 (Delphi) is shown in the edit box

It also doesn't remove the previously installed version.

I'm installing in a purpose create VM to do compiles so no big deal.



Roy Lambert
Sat, Mar 31 2018 3:54 PMPermanent Link

Charalampos Michael

Roy,

<< It also doesn't remove the previously installed version. >>

I think the EDB Betas don't remove rtm versions on purpose.
Sun, Apr 1 2018 9:20 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Charalampos


><< It also doesn't remove the previously installed version. >>
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>I think the EDB Betas don't remove rtm versions on purpose.

Possible, but since they won't coexist and have to be removed anyway it needs to remove them or issue a warning.

Roy
Tue, Apr 3 2018 3:10 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Roy,

<< I just went to install the 2.28b4 beta and found a small problem - it seems to be adding the delphi version as part of the path without me asking it to. I browse and select C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB but C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB\Developer Studio 2006 (Delphi) is shown in the edit box >>

Which "path" and "edit box" are you referring to ?  The installation path that you are prompted with during installation ?

<< It also doesn't remove the previously installed version. >>

It should definitely be removing the previously-installed beta version.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Wed, Apr 4 2018 3:33 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Tim

><< I just went to install the 2.28b4 beta and found a small problem - it seems to be adding the delphi version as part of the path without me asking it to. I browse and select C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB but C:\3rdParty\ElevateDB\Developer Studio 2006 (Delphi) is shown in the edit box >>
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>Which "path" and "edit box" are you referring to ? The installation path that you are prompted with during installation ?

That's the edit box. If I click on Browse and select the directory I want it then adds the delphi version qualifier

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><< It also doesn't remove the previously installed version. >>
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>It should definitely be removing the previously-installed beta version.

I first tried installing into a VM which still had 2.18 installed (I prefer real machines so haven't used in a while) and the beta installer leaves 2.18 there - both bpl file and in Delphi's KnownPackages. When I try and start Delphi it complains that I can't have two versions of TEDBEngine.



Roy
Wed, Apr 4 2018 5:10 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Roy,

<< That's the edit box. If I click on Browse and select the directory I want it then adds the delphi version qualifier >>

I'll have to double-check - this may simply be an Inno Setup thing.

<< I first tried installing into a VM which still had 2.18 installed (I prefer real machines so haven't used in a while) and the beta installer leaves 2.18 there - both bpl file and in Delphi's KnownPackages. When I try and start Delphi  it complains that I can't have two versions of TEDBEngine. >>

2.18 *Beta*, or 2.18 Standard, etc. ?  The beta will not uninstall a prior version of a different product type.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 5 2018 4:49 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Tim


><< I first tried installing into a VM which still had 2.18 installed (I prefer real machines so haven't used in a while) and the beta installer leaves 2.18 there - both bpl file and in Delphi's KnownPackages. When I try and start Delphi it complains that I can't have two versions of TEDBEngine. >>
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>2.18 *Beta*, or 2.18 Standard, etc. ? The beta will not uninstall a prior version of a different product type.

Standard. But the question has to be why? Since a standard version seems to need to be uninstalled anyway I don't understand why you differentiate between stabdard & beta or is this an Inno setup thing as well?

I assume that when it goes to release I'll need to uninstall the beta manually?

Its not a big problem just a minor annoyance.


Roy
Thu, Apr 5 2018 4:46 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Roy,

<< Standard. But the question has to be why? Since a standard version seems to need to be uninstalled anyway I don't understand why you differentiate between stabdard & beta or is this an Inno setup thing as well? >>

It doesn't necessarily need to be uninstalled.  It's pretty easy in the Delphi IDE to be able to turn off selected packages and/or modify the library search paths so that you can simultaneously use both.  Or, better yet, don't try to use both in the same IDE instance (use a VM, etc.)

<< I assume that when it goes to release I'll need to uninstall the beta manually? >>

Yes, but "manually" is a stretch, by any measure.  You'll need to hit the Uninstall button in the Control Panel.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Fri, Apr 6 2018 2:52 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Tim

><< Standard. But the question has to be why? Since a standard version seems to need to be uninstalled anyway I don't understand why you differentiate between stabdard & beta or is this an Inno setup thing as well? >>
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>It doesn't necessarily need to be uninstalled. It's pretty easy in the Delphi IDE to be able to turn off selected packages and/or modify the library search paths so that you can simultaneously use both. Or, better yet, don't try to use both in the same IDE instance (use a VM, etc.)

Even in a VM (which is what I did), since its not a clean install, I'd experience the same.  I have a number of homebrew components using ElevateDB which need recompiling each non-build change (only two packages these days)  and I haven't the faintest idea on how to cope with sorting that out.


><< I assume that when it goes to release I'll need to uninstall the beta manually? >>
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>Yes, but "manually" is a stretch, by any measure. You'll need to hit the Uninstall button in the Control Panel.

Hey - I have to move my finger to click the mouse - that's manually Smiley

Roy
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