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Thu, Jan 29 2015 4:17 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Is there a reason why nearly all controls have a very big size by
default? See the attached screenshot of a Message Dialog V1 and V2.

Uli



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Thu, Jan 29 2015 6:04 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Uli,

<< Is there a reason why nearly all controls have a very big size by
default? See the attached screenshot of a Message Dialog V1 and V2. >>

I'm getting old ? Smile

No, they're bigger mainly due to: 1) "that's kind of the current style", and
2) the old EWB1 interfaces were too small for mobile devices.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Jan 29 2015 6:18 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Tim,


> No, they're bigger mainly due to: 1) "that's kind of the current style",
> and 2) the old EWB1 interfaces were too small for mobile devices.

@2) Maybe...

@1) Which "current style" do you mean? I've never seen such big controls
on a website.

Uli
Thu, Jan 29 2015 7:06 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Uli,

<< @1) Which "current style" do you mean? I've never seen such big controls
on a website. >>

google.com
twitter.com
our hosting provider: singlehop.com

and on and on.

The Windows Metro interface also uses a fairly large font size and layout
design.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com


Thu, Jan 29 2015 7:35 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Tim,

> google.com
> twitter.com
> our hosting provider: singlehop.com

It's quite big, you are right, but... Smile

Screenshot attached...

Uli




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Thu, Jan 29 2015 7:50 AMPermanent Link

Mark Brooks

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Uli Becker wrote:

>>It's quite big, you are right, but... Smile
>>
>>Screenshot attached...

Uli, that's a great example of the Twitter Bootstrap responsive framework. It's a very popular framework for JS developers and is very powerful in terms of responsiveness. What you're seeing is it's default size, and it is indeed somewhat smaller than EWB's default. However, I guess that we can just create our own themes via the new interfaces and use as we wish? Hopefully all will become clear. In summary, I agree with you!  
Thu, Jan 29 2015 8:02 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Mark,

> However, I guess that we can just create our own themes via the new interfaces and use as we wish? Hopefully all will become clear. In summary, I agree with you!

After having played with the interfaces of some controls, I must say
that it's actually quite easy to create "skins".

In the "borders" thread I found this:
<<
 so you can replace the entire "skin" of an application by simply
re-compiling your application using different search paths
>>

Good idea to switch between different "skins".

@Tim: Will the interfaces change after the final release? IOW: having
created my own "skins": will I still be able to use them with all new
versions/builds?
Actually I'd like to begin with this work right now. Smile

Uli
Thu, Jan 29 2015 8:03 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Uli,

<< It's quite big, you are right, but... Smile>>

Sure, but look at the *majority* of the text.  The font size is large, as is
the general layout.  The fact that the controls are slightly smaller is
somewhat irrelevant, especially considering that all of the controls that
you are using there can be resized at design-time without any interface
changes, both in their size and their font size.

BTW, the check box font sizing has been fixed so that it doesn't do that
mis-positioning when the font size changes.  The fix will be in the next
Build 3.

BTW 2, how long did it take you to work up that example ?  Just curious...
Smile It looks pretty good compared to the original (at least I think so).

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com


Thu, Jan 29 2015 8:12 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Tim,

> controls that you are using there can be resized at design-time without
> any interface changes, both in their size and their font size.

Right, as I posted to Mark, changing of the interfaces to get smaller
default values seems to be quite simple.
In this context I asked you something in my last post @Mark.

> BTW, the check box font sizing has been fixed so that it doesn't do that
> mis-positioning when the font size changes.  The fix will be in the next
> Build 3.

Great, I noticed the mis-positioning as well.

> BTW 2, how long did it take you to work up that example ?  Just
> curious... Smile It looks pretty good compared to the original (at least
> I think so).

About 3 minutes Smile

For me it's just too big, but since it's so easy to change the sizes,
that shouldn't be a problem.

Uli
Thu, Jan 29 2015 8:29 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Uli,

<< @Tim: Will the interfaces change after the final release? IOW: having
created my own "skins": will I still be able to use them with all new
versions/builds? >>

I'm trying as much as possible to not touch them anymore, other than bug
fixes and new controls.  I will document any (rare) changes to them with
each build, so you should be able to adjust accordingly.

<< Actually I'd like to begin with this work right now. Smile>>

Fantastic. Smile

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
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