Big Al wrote:

> doesn't want me to go down that road because I may ask too many questions

I doubt that at all. And asking questions is the way to learn, and asking here ensures that everyone learns. First thing I do when I get stuck on something is search these groups and see if anyone else has tackled it before. Usually they have.

But to help you best, we need to know what you are actually making, and who for. Otherwise the advice is general and not specific. Is this an application for use in an office, or for the public, or who? EWB's server has authentication built in, which uses the EDB authentication. It is a lot easier if you are doing things for an office where you can use a single account, or a small number. If you are writing Facebook2, then you might be better off with a different back-end server. But at heart, these things are all the same, it is just the implementation that varies.

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Matthew Jones

>"Matthew Jones" wrote:

>Big Al wrote:

> doesn't want me to go down that road because I may ask too many questions

>I doubt that at all. And asking questions is the way to learn, and asking here ensures that everyone learns. First >thing I do when I get stuck on something is search these groups and see if anyone else has tackled it before. >Usually they have.

Tim is very busy and he reads every post, so every question I ask takes some of his time. I really do try to search the forum first, but not too many people are using php web services, and to be honest some of it is just my lack of knowledge in EWB and Object Pascal in general. I am learning and hopefully each time I learn and use something I won't ask about it again.

>But to help you best, we need to know what you are actually making, and who for. Otherwise the advice is >general and not specific. Is this an application for use in an office, or for the public, or who? EWB's server has >authentication built in, which uses the EDB authentication. It is a lot easier if you are doing things for an office >where you can use a single account, or a small number. If you are writing Facebook2, then you might be better >off with a different back-end server. But at heart, these things are all the same, it is just the implementation that >varies.
My app is going to be the next FaceBook. Well in all fairness I would like it to be the next FaceBook though I'm not doing an duplicate of FaceBook of course. If my ideas don't work, then I'm just out time and some money. If it works, then it hopefully will generate enough money that Version 2 can be rewritten (if needed) in whatever I choose, but right now EWB is my tool of choice and I'm very happy with what I have been able to do with it. This web service issue was as much of me not understanding how JavaScript works, and to some extent how web services work. I think I'm clear now and have my direction, so I will head in that direction and see what I can do.

I really appreciate everyone here and hopefully I can help pay back by answering questions in the future, like hopefully I did for Frederick.. But I may have confused him... lol

Thanks again everyone, and thanks Tim for creating this wonderful product that with some learning even a non Delphi person can create something that works.

Big Al

<< I know rather than using a web service, that the EWB Web Server can be extended with Delphi. I know Tim doesn't want me to go down that road because I may ask too many questions and he has a lot of other things going on, and I perfectly respect that. >>

My point to you was that if *I* need to fill in your Delphi knowledge enough to get you to the finish line, then it's not going to work.  I'm not here to provide information on how to use Delphi, there's just not enough time in the day to do so and I would be doing a major disservice to all of our other customers that *are* Delphi developers and need me to be working on new features, etc.

That is why I recommended that you wait for EWB 2.07.  It will, at the very least, get around the "learning the entirety of Delphi" aspect and, at least, get you where you need to be faster.

But, in the meantime, I *highly* suggest that you read this area of the manual:

https://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=topics&id=ewb2&section=language_reference

You will need it for coding the server-side in 2.07.

<< Do people that use the EWB Web Server and extend it via Delphi still have the same issue with authentication?? >>

No, if you look at the EWB Web Server module side of the LoginClient example, called LoginModule, you will see that it's fairly simple to accomplish.  It's about 50-60 lines of code, not including support code that sets up an in-memory EDB database for the example. But, again, 2.07 will provide something similar without the need to use Delphi.

<< I'm a SQL guy, so I speak SQL much better than Object Pascal and Web. I freely admit that. >>

The key here is that you need to moderate your expectations accordingly. In other words, if you're trying to meet a deadline while simultaneously learning Delphi and EWB, then you're going to have problems.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com