So my Jan 30, 2025 invoice has a lower number than your Jan 4, 2025 invoice...so definitely not as simple as being sequential. So I don't think we can assume anything about them.

Walter Matte wrote:

Alan

Here are my invoices since 2020 - I have EDB, EDB DAC, EWB, DBISAM (which I have stopped) .....

Mon, Mar 16 2020   013310      $158.00   $0.00
Mon, Jun 22 2020   013408      $159.00   $0.00
Thu, Nov 5 2020   013580      $258.00   $0.00
Thu, Jan 14 2021   013671      $159.00   $0.00
Tue, Mar 16 2021   013784      $158.00   $0.00
Mon, Nov 8 2021   014019      $258.00   $0.00
Fri, Jan 14 2022   014101      $159.00   $0.00
Thu, Mar 17 2022   014183      $158.00   $0.00
Tue, Nov 8 2022   014378      $258.00   $0.00
Sat, Jan 14 2023   014446      $159.00   $0.00
Fri, Mar 17 2023   014510      $158.00   $0.00
Wed, Nov 8 2023   014665      $258.00   $0.00
Thu, Jan 4 2024   014742      $159.00   $0.00
Mon, Nov 11 2024   014978      $258.00   $0.00
Sat, Jan 4 2025   015005      $159.00   $0.00
Tue, Nov 11 2025   015223      $258.00   $0.00

Walter

erickengelke wrote:

<Elevate hasn't released an update in 18 months and Tim doesn't reply to requests or suggestions.  The only traffic I see regularly is requests for subscription renewals.  But in the absense of actual support, I cannot justify that.
Too bad, it was a really good product.>

I totally agree with Erick and it is a very good product... The big question is. What is everyone now going to do with all the EWB projects??? What technology to continue with?

Eivind wrote:

> I totally agree with Erick and it is a very good product... The big question is. What is everyone now
> going to do with all the EWB projects??? What technology to continue with?

I will continue to use the product, which is allowed under the perpetual license.  But I cannot legally pay for support which will not likely be delivered, that would be a fraudulent expense claim - yes, illegal.   The last 18 quiet months have shown nothing to suggest I should believe otherwise.

The only thing I lose is write access to this bulletin board, but there is a googlegroup mailing list of like minded developers available.  elevatewebbuilderusers@googlegroups.com   Feel free to join anyone, no subscription required.

I would be willing to continue help with the developer support load for Elevate - I have proven to do so for the past few years for free on this board.  But I cannot justify paying just for the privilege of doing so.

It's a darned shame, this is good technology.  But it's become a legal problem.  I'd like to see an alternate ending to this story, but they are chosing to drive it this way.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Nice Component Library
See my EWB BLOG posts, at:
http://www.erickengelke.com

erickengelke wrote:

I will continue to use the product, which is allowed under the perpetual license.  But I cannot legally pay for support which will not likely be delivered, that would be a fraudulent expense claim - yes, illegal.   The last 18 quiet months have shown nothing to suggest I should believe otherwise.

The only thing I lose is write access to this bulletin board, but there is a googlegroup mailing list of like minded developers available.  elevatewebbuilderusers@googlegroups.com   Feel free to join anyone, no subscription required.

I would be willing to continue help with the developer support load for Elevate - I have proven to do so for the past few years for free on this board.  But I cannot justify paying just for the privilege of doing so.

It's a darned shame, this is good technology.  But it's become a legal problem.  I'd like to see an alternate ending to this story, but they are chosing to drive it this way.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Nice Component Library
See my EWB BLOG posts, at:
http://www.erickengelke.com

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Hi all,
me too!
I was paying this EWB support for years now, notwithstanding I don't sell anymore my web products for some health problems.
I just payed the fee in these years thinking that Tim needs a costant income to do product support.
I think that EWB is a good product that give to a delphi programmer a boost to produce a very good web app. My experience was that nobody had same development time mantaining focus on app.
So... Tim give us a sign!!!  

> erickengelke wrote:
>
> Elevate hasn't released an update in 18 months and Tim doesn't reply to requests or suggestions.  The only traffic > I see regularly is requests for subscription renewals.  But in the absense of actual support, I cannot justify that.
>
> Too bad, it was a really good product.
>
> Erick
> EWB Programming Books and Nice Component Library
> See my EWB BLOG posts, at:
> http://www.erickengelke.com

Tim said the non-development tool products he is working on now use Elevate products.  So it is a surprise that he is not keeping them up-to-date.  The last activity for ElevateDB was Oct. 27th so that is a positive sign.  

Best regards

I will continue to use the product and pay for updates or buy new licenses when the current one runs out. With EWB, I run circles around whole teams with standard tools, I can code REST APIs and set them productive in no time (the authentication method / EWB cookie is not optimal, but I can live with it for quick&dirty), and I can show mockups in days. For me personally, EWB is too cheap.Do I wish to see a more active development? Sure! A stand alone management console would be great. Same with support for more modern HTML elements, more components, more functions. But for now, it's by far the best tool to write the stuff that I need. That says something about the industry.