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Thread EWB2 forms versus EWB1 forms
Thu, Jul 2 2015 2:27 PMPermanent Link

TD

Advanced Data Systems, Inc.

I just started trying out EWB2 and the forms are strange to me.  In EWB1 the form properties included EnableDrag and Caption but I do not see these properties in EWB2.  Also, I like / need my forms to look as close as possible to desktop app forms, i.e. with 3D style titlebar which the EWB1 forms had.  So, what am I missing?

Attached is a screen capture of a test project I started in EWB1 and this is how I need my forms to look.  Is this possible with EWB2?

TD



Attachments: ewb1 forms.pdf
Thu, Jul 2 2015 2:52 PMPermanent Link

Walter Matte

Tactical Business Corporation

TD

When you start a form in EWB 2 - you are prompted to select what form to inherit from - select TDialog - if you want what used to be a TForm in EWB 1.

Some one else can jump in about the Drag.  Or search I believe I read something about Dragging in EWB 2.

Walter
Thu, Jul 2 2015 3:15 PMPermanent Link

Raul

Team Elevate Team Elevate

On 7/2/2015 2:27 PM, TD wrote:
> I just started trying out EWB2 and the forms are strange to me.  In EWB1 the form properties included EnableDrag and Caption but I do not see these properties in EWB2.  Also, I like / need my forms to look as close as possible to desktop app forms, i.e. with 3D style titlebar which the EWB1 forms had.  So, what am I missing?

Drag (and drop) is coming very soon (if you need basic drag only support
now then see here for framework changes to achieve this :
http://www.elevatesoft.com/forums?action=view&category=ewb&id=ewb2_preview&msg=962&page=1).


Raul
Thu, Jul 2 2015 3:16 PMPermanent Link

TD

Advanced Data Systems, Inc.

Walter Matte wrote:

TD

When you start a form in EWB 2 - you are prompted to select what form to inherit from - select TDialog - if you want what used to be a TForm in EWB 1.

Some one else can jump in about the Drag.  Or search I believe I read something about Dragging in EWB 2.

Walter

Thanks for helping Walter.  I see what you mean about TDialog but what about the actual look that forms in EWB1 had?  The TDialog forms in EWB2 are flat.
Thu, Jul 2 2015 3:42 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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TD,

<< Thanks for helping Walter.  I see what you mean about TDialog but what
about the actual look that forms in EWB1 had?  The TDialog forms in EWB2 are
flat. >>

See here for information on changing the control interfaces:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=viewtopic&id=ewb2&topic=Control_Interfaces

(at the bottom).

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Jul 2 2015 3:58 PMPermanent Link

TD

Advanced Data Systems, Inc.

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:

TD,

<< Thanks for helping Walter.  I see what you mean about TDialog but what
about the actual look that forms in EWB1 had?  The TDialog forms in EWB2 are
flat. >>

See here for information on changing the control interfaces:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=viewtopic&id=ewb2&topic=Control_Interfaces

(at the bottom).

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

OK, opened TDialog.wbi in the \interfaces directory and looked at the various properties.  I still am at a loss as to how I can make the TDialog in EWB2 look exactly like the TDialog in EWB1.  Is that even possible and if so how much work would it entail?

TD
Thu, Jul 2 2015 5:35 PMPermanent Link

Raul

Team Elevate Team Elevate

On 7/2/2015 3:58 PM, TD wrote:
> OK, opened TDialog.wbi in the \interfaces directory and looked at the various properties.  I still am at a loss as to how I can make the TDialog in EWB2 look exactly like the TDialog in EWB1.  Is that even possible and if so how much work would it entail?

I think you can get reasonably close quite quickly but for 100% match it
looks like fair bit of work to me (fine tuning colours, icons etc).

Curious - why do you need it to look exactly like EWB1 forms ?

IMHO EWB2 forms are more modern looking so i much prefer them.

For us one of the comments for EWB1 was that app did not look like a
modern web app but more of a skinned windows one.

Raul
Thu, Jul 2 2015 7:00 PMPermanent Link

TD

Advanced Data Systems, Inc.

Raul wrote:

On 7/2/2015 3:58 PM, TD wrote:
> OK, opened TDialog.wbi in the \interfaces directory and looked at the various properties.  I still am at a loss as to how I can make the TDialog in EWB2 look exactly like the TDialog in EWB1.  Is that even possible and if so how much work would it entail?

I think you can get reasonably close quite quickly but for 100% match it
looks like fair bit of work to me (fine tuning colours, icons etc).

Curious - why do you need it to look exactly like EWB1 forms ?

IMHO EWB2 forms are more modern looking so i much prefer them.

For us one of the comments for EWB1 was that app did not look like a
modern web app but more of a skinned windows one.

Raul

That is exactly what I want, something that looks the most like a desktop app.  For me, the definition of a "web app" is s browser based intranet enterprise level application that may or may not ever be exposed to the internet.  I realize that most folks consider a web app the be a database driven website, which I have no interest in building.  

So, please explain how would one go about making the EWB2 forms look reasonable close to looking like the EWB1 forms?  And thanks to everyone for your help!

TD
Fri, Jul 3 2015 3:46 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

<< So, please explain how would one go about making the EWB2 forms look reasonable close to looking like the EWB1 forms? >>

There is nothing to explain - except you want us to do this work for you SmileYou just have to invest some time in learning how to work with the interfaces.

Modifying the interfaces allows you to change nearly everything you want, but as Raul indicated, it will be quite a lot of work to adjust all colors, icons etc. to get the wanted result.

Uli
Fri, Jul 3 2015 4:50 AMPermanent Link

Matthew Jones

TD wrote:

> So, please explain how would one go about making the EWB2 forms look
> reasonable close to looking like the EWB1 forms?  And thanks to
> everyone for your help!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7CKDuQJEw is the early look at how to
"skin" your controls. The other videos on that channel might help too.
Baiscally, you can have the interface look exactly how you want.

(Tim, it might be worth having a link to the Youtube channel on your
support pages - I had to Google to find this)

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Matthew Jones
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