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Thread Logins and administrative options
Fri, Jan 5 2007 3:00 PMPermanent Link

"J. B. Ferguson"
Hey Tim,

I don't know if this is WAD or not however I found that if the "Login"
tab contains an administrator login (either the default administrator
or a user with administrator role privileges) the administrative
tasking capabilities (i.e., Create a new database, create a new table,
edit a database, etc.) are visible. However, if I delete the "Login"
tab information and login when connecting the session, these
administrative tasks are not visible. It does not matter what
administrative user logs in (even the default Administrator user) the
options just aren't there.

Is this working as designed or a possible flaw?

Thanks...

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson
Sat, Jan 6 2007 3:30 PMPermanent Link

"J. B. Ferguson"
Tim,

Upon further testing I stand corrected on this statement. Due to
network settings at my office, it appears it worked slightly different
than my programming office at home.

While it is still true that I *cannot* create a new database if I log
in interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab) I find that I can do most
everything else (i.e., create new tables, migrate, drop a database,
etc.) However, it does not show me the database privileges for the
logged in user while with the login tab filled in, it does show the
database privileges.

Not a really big deal but I wanted to point out my discovery.

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson


J. B. Ferguson wrote:

<<Hey Tim,
<<
<<I don't know if this is WAD or not however I found that if the "Login"
<<tab contains an administrator login (either the default administrator
<<or a user with administrator role privileges) the administrative
<<tasking capabilities (i.e., Create a new database, create a new table,
<<edit a database, etc.) are visible. However, if I delete the "Login"
<<tab information and login when connecting the session, these
<<administrative tasks are not visible. It does not matter what
<<administrative user logs in (even the default Administrator user) the
<<options just aren't there.
<<
<<Is this working as designed or a possible flaw?
<<
<<Thanks...
<<
<<--
<<Regards,
<<Jan Ferguson
>>

J
Mon, Jan 8 2007 4:07 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Jan,

<< While it is still true that I *cannot* create a new database if I log in
interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab) I find that I can do most
everything else (i.e., create new tables, migrate, drop a database, etc.)
However, it does not show me the database privileges for the logged in user
while with the login tab filled in, it does show the database privileges. >>

Members of the Administrators role don't see their effective rights like
non-admin users.  Instead, they see a dialog that allows them to modify any
privileges for any user or role (including themselves).

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Jan 8 2007 5:16 PMPermanent Link

"J. B. Ferguson"
Hi Tim,

That was my point...maybe I did explain it well enough. It does not
show the dialog or allow me to change any permissions in that situation
namely if I log in interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab). When I
click on the combo box, it is empty even though there are three users
(Admin, myself and "testuser").

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson


Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:

<<Jan,
<<
<<<< While it is still true that I cannot create a new database if I
<<<<log in interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab) I find that I can
<<<<do most everything else (i.e., create new tables, migrate, drop a
<<<<database, etc.) However, it does not show me the database
<<<<privileges for the logged in user while with the login tab filled
<<<<in, it does show the database privileges. >>
<<
<<Members of the Administrators role don't see their effective rights
<<like non-admin users.  Instead, they see a dialog that allows them to
<<modify any privileges for any user or role (including themselves).
<<
<<--
<<Tim Young
<<Elevate Software
<<www.elevatesoft.com
>>

Tim
Tue, Jan 9 2007 8:12 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Jan,

<< That was my point...maybe I did explain it well enough. It does not show
the dialog or allow me to change any permissions in that situation
namely if I log in interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab). When I click
on the combo box, it is empty even though there are three users (Admin,
myself and "testuser"). >>

I can't replicate this here.  Could you possibly run through the exact steps
that you take after logging into the session ?

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Jan 9 2007 5:32 PMPermanent Link

"J. B. Ferguson"
I sure will. In fact, I will create a Camtasia video and place it on
the web so you can watch as I do it. I should get it done later tonight.

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson


Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:

<<Jan,
<<
<<<< That was my point...maybe I did explain it well enough. It does
<<<<not show the dialog or allow me to change any permissions in that
<<<<situation
<<namely if I log in interactively (i.e., not on the Login tab). When I
<<click on the combo box, it is empty even though there are three users
<<(Admin, myself and "testuser"). >>
<<
<<I can't replicate this here.  Could you possibly run through the
<<exact steps that you take after logging into the session ?
<<
<<--
<<Tim Young
<<Elevate Software
<<www.elevatesoft.com
>>

Tim
Tue, Jan 9 2007 6:11 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Jan,

<< I sure will. In fact, I will create a Camtasia video and place it on the
web so you can watch as I do it. I should get it done later tonight. >>

Wow, thanks. Smiley

BTW, I really like Camstasia.  We've had it for a while, but I haven't had
time to complete a product tour video that I've been working on.  Hopefully
soon I'll have it done. Smiley

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Tue, Jan 9 2007 10:42 PMPermanent Link

"J. B. Ferguson"
Tim,

URL of the video sent to you via private email. I hope it helps...

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Regards,
Jan Ferguson


Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:

<<Jan,
<<
<<<< I sure will. In fact, I will create a Camtasia video and place it
<<<<on the web so you can watch as I do it. I should get it done later
<<<<tonight. >>
<<
<<Wow, thanks. Smiley

Tim
Wed, Jan 10 2007 1:14 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Jan,

<< URL of the video sent to you via private email. I hope it helps... >>

Very much so, thanks.  Please see my response via email.

For everyone else - Jan is correct.  The bug occurs when you leave the User
Name blank in the session options in the EDB Manager.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

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