I've been using ElevateDB for a while, and by no means push it really. My latest foray is using the .Net interface to use it as an embedded database, and that worked well. It was simple overall (mainly my learning the C# way of doing things), and it works very nicely when I want to edit the columns and generally manipulate things.

But to really appreciate how good ElevateDB is, just use SQL Server for the same basic things. Yep, another project requires me to use it, and the core designer is very slow and clunky. Some of it has to do with the "powerful flexibility" which it obviously has, but it means that when you click to see the databases, it takes a while to load the DLL that implements that. Now the tables, another delay while it links through to that. Open the designer - doesn't let you do a load of things like changing field order until you find the option it has to stop you do that, for whatever reason. And then I renamed a few columns, and tried re-running the query I was working on, and it didn't have the columns. I had to close it all and start over to have it know that it had the columns it had just renamed. Aargh! And don't get me started on the data types. Bit fields for boolean, with 1 and 0, and all sorts of what must be legacy stuff. And no helpful errors, and...

Anyway, I learned long ago that the world will buy cr*p software because that's the big name. But ElevateDB will be by personal choice unless there is a really good reason not to use it.

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Matthew Jones

Matthew,

<<Anyway, I learned long ago that the world will buy cr*p software because that's the big name. But ElevateDB will be by personal choice unless there is a really good reason not to use it.>>

Amen !


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Fernando Dias
[Team Elevate]

Matthew,

<< I've been using ElevateDB for a while, and by no means push it really. My latest foray is using the .Net interface to use it as an embedded database, and that worked well. It was simple overall (mainly my learning the C# way of doing things), and it works very nicely when I want to edit the columns and generally manipulate things.

But to really appreciate how good ElevateDB is, just use SQL Server for the same basic things. Yep, another project requires me to use it, and the core designer is very slow and clunky. Some of it has to do with the "powerful flexibility" which it obviously has, but it means that when you click to see the databases, it takes a while to load the DLL that implements that. Now the tables, another delay while it links through to that. Open the designer - doesn't let you do a load of things like changing field order until you find the option it has to stop you do that, for whatever reason. And then I renamed a few columns, and tried re-running the query I was working on, and it didn't have the columns. I had to close it all and start over to have it know that it had the columns it had just renamed. Aargh! And don't get me started on the data types. Bit fields for boolean, with 1 and 0, and all sorts of what must be legacy stuff. And no helpful errors, and... >>

Thanks for the kind words.  I've also had enough experience with SQL Server to be surprised at some of the clunky baggage that it has with certain types of operations.  For example, using BULK INSERT with any type of import file that has nested field separators, the pain of populating output parameters for inserts, etc.  I think it helps that ElevateDB has a newer heritage and was built around a lot of learning from DBISAM, so it benefits from a tendency to just do things in a way that is the least problematic for the developer.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

<<Anyway, I learned long ago that the world will buy cr*p software because that's the big name. But ElevateDB will be by personal choice unless there is a really good reason not to use it.>>

Damn it, where is the like button on this forum...

Kidding aside, this my post reflects my feelings exactly.

Regards,
Mario