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Tue, Apr 27 2010 2:56 AM | Permanent Link |
Uli Becker | Tim,
Just to let you know: with the new website the downloads are quite slow for me. Though I have a 16 Mbit connection, it takes about 4 minutes to download a 13.6 MB file. No problems with other sites. P.S. Times are changing - 2 years ago I'd have been very happy about this performance. Regards Uli |
Tue, Apr 27 2010 11:49 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Uli,
<< Just to let you know: with the new website the downloads are quite slow for me. Though I have a 16 Mbit connection, it takes about 4 minutes to download a 13.6 MB file. No problems with other sites. >> During peak download times, you may not see the best download performance due to the load on our T1. Have you seen this issue at off-times, that is, not right after a new build or release ? -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Apr 27 2010 12:31 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | I'm averaging about 80-95KB/s download speed. This being approx 50% of the T1 capacity that they have is normal assuming other traffic on the link as well. Tim - have you considered "cloud hosting" of the installer files (even as a backup for your site)? We've been using the Amazon S3 ourselves for few years now with great success - it's dirt cheap and API allows generating time-limited links so you can still control all of it from your sire without giving away actual file location. Raul |
Tue, Apr 27 2010 1:02 PM | Permanent Link |
Uli Becker | Tim,
> Have you seen this issue at > off-times, that is, not right after a new build or release ? I think so, because I downloaded the latest builds just some days after they were announced. But I'll check that once more tomorrow in the morning (German time). There shouldn't be much traffic in the USA then. Uli |
Tue, Apr 27 2010 4:47 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Raul,
<< Tim - have you considered "cloud hosting" of the installer files (even as a backup for your site)? We've been using the Amazon S3 ourselves for few years now with great success - it's dirt cheap and API allows generating time-limited links so you can still control all of it from your sire without giving away actual file location. >> I'll look into it. The issue has always been what you mention - having actual URLs present that can be accessed publicly. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Apr 27 2010 8:21 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | << I'll look into it. The issue has always been what you mention - having
actual URLs present that can be accessed publicly. >> This is solved nicely by S3 and likely something similar is available for other cloud storage type services. Basically what you do is create a private bucket (i.e. folder) and mark all objects (files) inside also private - each of your actual setup exe files would be one of these objects. Since it's all private nobody but you have access. Now you can generate a time-expiry link from your website and provide that link to customers and even if they save the link once the time expires the link dies and they lose access. It's fairly straightforward so you can do it in your download area and generate a new link for every download request (that's valid for few minutes for example). Amazon calls it " Query String Authentication" and brief description is here: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/S3_QSAuth.html Raul |
Wed, Apr 28 2010 2:28 AM | Permanent Link |
Uli Becker | Tim,
Wednesday, 7:26 GMT: 13.6 MB downloaded in 120 seconds. Regards Uli |
Wed, Apr 28 2010 3:52 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Raul,
<< Basically what you do is create a private bucket (i.e. folder) and mark all objects (files) inside also private - each of your actual setup exe files would be one of these objects. Since it's all private nobody but you have access. >> Cool, thanks for the info. I looked into it yesterday, but it was all a bit hard to decipher at first. I'll have to do some calculations on how much it will cost, also. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Wed, Apr 28 2010 4:06 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Uli,
<< Wednesday, 7:26 GMT: 13.6 MB downloaded in 120 seconds. >> From our logs, I'm seeing an average download time of around 195 secs for the ElevateDB Additional Software and Utilities (14MB). Not great, but not bad (70KB per second), and this includes a lot of apparently really-bad connections that take a long time to download. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Wed, Apr 28 2010 5:22 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | << I'll have to do some calculations on how much it will cost, also.>>
Main question is whether you think it would benefit the business and is it worthwhile spending your time coding the website (instead of coding EDB/DBISAM). I'm sure most of us can live just fine with the 5 minute download for new release + addl tools every now and then. The cost we found to be cheap - it's basically $0.15 to store 1GB per month and same for 1GB of transfer. You'd have to estimate how many customers would download the product. Assuming most of your customers download approx 100MB a month (release for few different environments) and you have 1000 of them it would be approx $15 per month as an estimate. If you do decide to go ahead then let me know - I've written a command line utility for managing S3 and uploads that can easily be added to automated build process (or batch file). Raul |
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