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Thread Tray icon - server stats... SOS
Wed, Apr 28 2010 9:18 AMPermanent Link

durumdara

Dear Support!

Now we migrated the first big corporation from DBISAM to EDB.

The main problem that edbsrvr.exe ignore the ini file, and the "No User Interface" is not working Remote Desktop - the tray icon vanished.

These servers are virtual, so they have only way to control the server that show and modify it with Remote Desktop.

The application mode starts the GUI, and I can see the connections, statistics, etc.

When we start this from local machine, we see the tray icon.

But from Remote Desktop the tray icon not visible.

Same problem we saw with Cobian Backup.

But this is very-very wrong, because in this place we have high usage, and we want to check and compare with DBISAM usage...

So what we can do to make tray icon visible, or get statistics from server.

Thanks for your help:
  dd
Wed, Apr 28 2010 4:15 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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<< The main problem that edbsrvr.exe ignore the ini file, and the "No User
Interface" is not working Remote Desktop - the tray icon vanished. >>

What OS are you using ?  Please be more specific with what the environment
is.  Vista and higher do not allow the use of the system tray icon for
services, so you can't use it like that.

You can use the ElevateDB Manager to view available sessions, etc:

Click on the name of a remote session node in the left-hand treeview, and
then click on the Manage Server Sessions task link

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 29 2010 6:56 AMPermanent Link

durumdara

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:
<< The main problem that edbsrvr.exe ignore the ini file, and the "No User
Interface" is not working Remote Desktop - the tray icon vanished.
What OS are you using ?  Please be more specific with what the environment
is.  Vista and higher do not allow the use of the system tray icon for
services, so you can't use it like that.>>

The server is Windows 2003 R2 Standard, SP2.

The notebook where we opened the RDesktop have Windows XP OS.

The Cobian Backup Icon is on, only EDBSrvr not.

May this caused by that "Log user" is not hooked, or hook is not working with RDesktop?

Thanks:
  dd
Thu, Apr 29 2010 11:36 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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<< May this caused by that "Log user" is not hooked, or hook is not working
with RDesktop? >>

The system tray icon works fine from here using Remote Desktop to access a
2003 R2 Server running the EDB Server as a service from a Windows 7 desktop.
However, I'm using the /admin switch to log in to the console (in XP it's
the /console switch) as the administrator.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Wed, May 5 2010 6:27 AMPermanent Link

durumdara

Hi!

<< May this caused by that "Log user" is not hooked, or hook is not working
with RDesktop?
The system tray icon works fine from here using Remote Desktop to access a
2003 R2 Server running the EDB Server as a service from a Windows 7 desktop.
However, I'm using the /admin switch to log in to the console (in XP it's
the /console switch) as the administrator. >>

Now we can tested it.

If local machine used to EDBSrvr (with interact to desktop), the icon visible.

When we use a local user for start the service (with admin group membering!), the icon is not visible.

Why? What right we need to add to this user, or group to set icon visible?

Thanks for your help:
  dd  
Wed, May 5 2010 6:32 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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<< When we use a local user for start the service (with admin group
membering!), the icon is not visible.

Why? What right we need to add to this user, or group to set icon visible?
>>

The quick answer is that you can't.  Only the special Local System account
can interact with the desktop.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, May 6 2010 2:37 AMPermanent Link

durumdara

<< When we use a local user for start the service (with admin group
membering!), the icon is not visible.
Why? What right we need to add to this user, or group to set icon visible?

The quick answer is that you can't.  Only the special Local System account
can interact with the desktop. >>

Thanks for your help! I set it local machine.

Note:
In hungarian Delphi developer list they are said that is a security hole in "interact with desktop" function.
I don't know, what they are thinking about it, but as I see, other programs splitted into two part: the service, and the tray app, and they communicate...

I want to tell you to you know about it (may it help you).

Sincelery:
  dd
Thu, May 6 2010 4:58 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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<< In hungarian Delphi developer list they are said that is a security hole
in "interact with desktop" function. I don't know, what they are thinking
about it, but as I see, other programs splitted into two part: the service,
and the tray app, and they communicate... >>

Yes, there have been several issues with the interaction with the desktop,
but I'm pretty sure that Vista and higher resolve those security holes.  I
could be wrong, though.

ElevateDB Server has an option to turn off the Interact with Desktop, and
then you can simply use the ElevateDB Manager to manage sessions, etc.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
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