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Thread Previously fast EDB suddenly very slow
Tue, Nov 15 2011 6:30 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

I have a small LAN, with only 4 client PCs running EDB. It has always been lovely & quick. Suddenly it is taking 13+ seconds to open a simple

SELECT * FROM SomeTable WHERE ID = 1234

query. Previously such a query executed almost instantly.

I'm pretty sure something network-ish is to blame, but I can't see anything that has changed! No Firewall / Anti-virus is in place or has been added.

... how can I check where the bottleneck is in this process? Is there an application I can run to test which parts of the process are slow?
Tue, Nov 15 2011 7:12 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Adam

>I have a small LAN, with only 4 client PCs running EDB. It has always been lovely & quick. Suddenly it is taking 13+ seconds to open a simple
>
>SELECT * FROM SomeTable WHERE ID = 1234
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>query. Previously such a query executed almost instantly.
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>I'm pretty sure something network-ish is to blame, but I can't see anything that has changed! No Firewall / Anti-virus is in place or has been added.
>
> ... how can I check where the bottleneck is in this process? Is there an application I can run to test which parts of the process are slow?

If you're running c/s there should either be a log or you can ask the server to create one. Don't ask me where cos I'm f/s

However, my first thought would be repair the table, making sure the index files are regenerated.

Four questions:

1. you mention 4 PCs - is one of those the server?
2. is this f/s or c/s?
3. is the 13 seconds on all PCs or just one?
4. what happens if you try the query in single user mode from the server?

Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]
Tue, Nov 15 2011 12:31 PMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Thanks for the speedy response Roy!

>>1. you mention 4 PCs - is one of those the server?

No.

>>2. is this f/s or c/s?

All c/s, I will try accessing f/s & report back

>>3. is the 13 seconds on all PCs or just one?

All of them (which makes me think the problem is with the network).

>>4. what happens if you try the query in single user mode from the server?

Reasonably quick.

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OK: It is tricky to actually get to this server, so I hadn't actually gone to it & logged on until this point. It is a Windows 7 machine which is more or less just used for EDB (plus some file-sharing).

Once I got to the I found it was virtually out of memory & was really running super slow.

A set of Windows updates had just been installed, but the computer had not been restarted ... so there were 42 separate windows update elements pending (!) now I have restarted with all those pending updates installed the system is running OK again.

I think probably all I needed to do was switch it off & on again ... sorry

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HOWEVER: I could really use a remote tool that allowed me to check on the performance of the server from another machine on the LAN, does anyone know of one?
Its bloody slow too.





Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]
Wed, Nov 16 2011 3:34 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Adam


>I think probably all I needed to do was switch it off & on again ... sorry

I think MS should apologise to all of us rather than you apologising here.

>HOWEVER: I could really use a remote tool that allowed me to check on the performance of the server from another machine on the LAN, does anyone know of one?

No - but I'm interested to!

>Its bloody slow too.

What is?

Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]


Wed, Nov 16 2011 4:23 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

>>Its bloody slow too.

>What is?

>Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]

... posted accidentally early ... my mega MS Windows update on my server has taken me about 8 hours so far, of staring at the "Please do not power off or unplug your machine Installing update XX of YY"

I think because the servers memory is jammed solid with updates (2 gig worth!) it is having a hard time doing the install/update.

This is a real lesson for me: As the server was only running EDB I never bothered to switch it off, EDB never needed it. However I forgot about regular Windows updates & the fact that these often need a restart.

I think I'm probably installing at least 1 major MS service pack pus who knows what else ... and all the while my server is off-line Frown

From now on I'll build in a weekly restart to the server ... so this never happens again.
Wed, Nov 16 2011 4:34 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Adam


If its not being used to connect to the outside world (apart from EDB) I'd suggest disabling Windows Update - most of the stuff is security patches which won't apply to what the server is doing or wonderful things like a dictionary update that need a quarter gig download.

Roy Lambert
Wed, Nov 16 2011 4:07 PMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

You're right Roy, most of the updates are probably useless ... but I think its probably safer to enable them & get the useful ones, even if they are few & far between.
Thu, Nov 17 2011 4:13 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Adam

>You're right Roy, most of the updates are probably useless ... but I think its probably safer to enable them & get the useful ones, even if they are few & far between.

I must disagree. Some Windows updates screw up the system so its unusable!

Roy Lambert
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