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Thread Oh JOY: Working "help"
Sun, Apr 8 2012 11:41 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

... As a Delphi 2007 user I have struggled with a totally disfunctional Help / Documentation system ever since I installed the program.

Occasionally I put a few hours into trying to make it work, usually without success. Sometimes the help system works for a few days, or until I install a new component, at which point it explodes.

In EDBMgr you have the EDB SQL reference help ... which I refer to constantly.

But I have just discovered (3 years in??) the EDB2rsDelphi2007.elh file and installed it into my EDBMgr.

So now I have Delphi Elevate Component help at last, without having to go on-line.

To install it, in EDBMgr go to File, Preferences, click on the "Help" tab, click on the tiny "new file" icon and navigate to the file, on my machine installed at:

C:\Program Files (x86)\ElevateDB VCL Client-Server\Version 2\RAD Studio (Delphi) 2007\help\edb2rsdelphi2007.elh

Then fill in the "title" field, and click "Add Help" from the set of buttons above the "properties" tab.

Now you can launch a nice, friendly help system when ever you want.
Sun, Apr 8 2012 2:36 PMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Adam,

> Now you can launch a nice, friendly help system when ever you want.

There was a thread dealing with this some days ago:

http://tinyurl.com/dykanqt

Regards Uli
Mon, Apr 9 2012 4:10 PMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Thanks Uli

I think you are being sarcastic? This thread is funny for all the terrible stuff it shows in the Delphi help system!

On the plus side there is now a good on-line help from Delphi:

http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/en/Main_Page

... which is actually pretty good.

but the built in help in EDBMgr is still better.

How is it possible that a decent company like Embarcadero can produce such an inferior help tool?
Tue, Apr 10 2012 3:15 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Adam

>How is it possible that a decent company like Embarcadero can produce such an inferior help tool?

Come on Adam - how many developers care about producing good documentation? Delphi's documentation has always been mildly out of touch with reality and CodeGear and now Embarcadero have simply improved it along with the rest of the product <vbg>

The fact that the MS system they're using is a pile of poo doesn't help!

Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]
Wed, Apr 11 2012 1:40 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Adam,

<< How is it possible that a decent company like Embarcadero can produce
such an inferior help tool? >>

In EMB's defense, this is an MS abomination.  There isn't a tool on this
planet that MS can't make overly complex and requiring several dozen COM
objects and DLLs that need to be registered. Wink

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Wed, Apr 11 2012 2:07 PMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Tim

>In EMB's defense, this is an MS abomination. There isn't a tool on this
>planet that MS can't make overly complex and requiring several dozen COM
>objects and DLLs that need to be registered. Wink

You missed "and incredibly bloated"

Roy
Wed, Apr 11 2012 3:25 PMPermanent Link

Raul

Team Elevate Team Elevate


Term i like for designers of this type of component/app is Architecture
Astronauts (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html)


Raul





On 4/11/2012 1:40 PM, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
>
> In EMB's defense, this is an MS abomination. There isn't a tool on this
> planet that MS can't make overly complex and requiring several dozen COM
> objects and DLLs that need to be registered. Wink
>
Thu, Apr 12 2012 1:40 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Raul,

<< Term i like for designers of this type of component/app is Architecture
Astronauts (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html) >>

That's always been a great article. Smile

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com


Wed, Apr 18 2012 5:20 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html

... _fab_ article ... as a solo developer I really have to fight to get the balance right with abstraction. I actually try to keep it as minimal as possible & work as close to the surface as I can wherever possible.

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