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Thread Updates of the Help/Documentation
Tue, Apr 24 2007 2:04 PMPermanent Link

"Royke"
With the current incomplete Help, it is quite a struggle to find out how to
implement EDB. Maybe life is easier if you come from a DBISam background,
but we are working from scratch.

Versioning? Views? Catalog?

Will there be some Help updates soon? Is the Help in the download the most
uptodate version?

Thanks, RJ

Wed, Apr 25 2007 2:45 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Royke


Believe me coming from being a DBISAM user is no help at all, rather the reverse. What would be helpful is coming from a big metal heavyweight sql db environment (eg Oracle)

Roy Lambert
Wed, Apr 25 2007 11:02 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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RJ,

<< With the current incomplete Help, it is quite a struggle to find out how
to implement EDB. Maybe life is easier if you come from a DBISam background,
but we are working from scratch. >>

Are you having trouble with the components side of things, or the SQL side
of things ?

If you check out the SQL documentation, you will find all of the information
on the architecture of EDB and how everything is set up.   It also explains
what the catalogs are, etc.   The online version is here:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/edb1sql.htm

Also, did you see the local tutorial ?

http://www.elevatesoft.com/edb1d7_local%20application%20tutorial.htm

Finally, there are examples, including a complete application called
CDCollector, in the \Examples subdirectory under the main EDB installation
directory.  The CDCollector application demonstrates everything you need to
know to put together an application using EDB, including creating the
database and tables, views, etc. at runtime.

<< Will there be some Help updates soon? Is the Help in the download the
most uptodate version? >>

The EDB compiler-specific help with the component/type reference should be
complete within the next week.  The EDB SQL manual will be done by Friday.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Wed, Apr 25 2007 5:33 PMPermanent Link

Tim,

I checked out the PDF's of the help, and they are in a very small font.
This makes it quite hard to read - so hard in fact I'm not able to
sensibly read it so I've given up. In the next update, could you make the
PDFs a sensible size please? I don't know what tool you use, but hopefully
it can be automated to make a set of all the types sensibly (Help and
Manual works well for me!). Thanks!

/Matthew Jones/
Thu, Apr 26 2007 1:38 AMPermanent Link

"Royke"
"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> RJ,
>
> << With the current incomplete Help, it is quite a struggle to find out
> how to implement EDB. Maybe life is easier if you come from a DBISam
> background, but we are working from scratch. >>
>
> Are you having trouble with the components side of things, or the SQL side
> of things ?

Hi, Tim. My main problem is the missing info in the component reference.
Most (all?) the Property pages are still empty.

Roy


>
> If you check out the SQL documentation, you will find all of the
> information on the architecture of EDB and how everything is set up.   It
> also explains what the catalogs are, etc.   The online version is here:
>
> http://www.elevatesoft.com/edb1sql.htm
>
> Also, did you see the local tutorial ?
>
> http://www.elevatesoft.com/edb1d7_local%20application%20tutorial.htm
>
> Finally, there are examples, including a complete application called
> CDCollector, in the \Examples subdirectory under the main EDB installation
> directory.  The CDCollector application demonstrates everything you need
> to know to put together an application using EDB, including creating the
> database and tables, views, etc. at runtime.
>
> << Will there be some Help updates soon? Is the Help in the download the
> most uptodate version? >>
>
> The EDB compiler-specific help with the component/type reference should be
> complete within the next week.  The EDB SQL manual will be done by Friday.
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Fri, Apr 27 2007 9:22 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Roy,

<< Hi, Tim. My main problem is the missing info in the component reference.
Most (all?) the Property pages are still empty. >>

Yes, that will be completed for the 1.03 release coming up.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Fri, Apr 27 2007 9:24 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Matthew,

<< I checked out the PDF's of the help, and they are in a very small font.
This makes it quite hard to read - so hard in fact I'm not able to sensibly
read it so I've given up. In the next update, could you make the PDFs a
sensible size please? >>

I will see what I can do.  Right now it uses the same type and size as the
HTML help and the online web site versions.

<< I don't know what tool you use, but hopefully it can be automated to make
a set of all the types sensibly (Help and Manual works well for me!).
Thanks! >>

We use our own stuff for all of the document generation.  It's as simple as
changing a .css file entry.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Fri, Apr 27 2007 11:47 AMPermanent Link

> Right now it uses the same type and size as the
> HTML help and the online web site versions.

It is the fact that the page is so large presumably, so that when printed
(scaled) on A4 it is all really small. The DBISAM manual is great.

/Matthew Jones/
Mon, Apr 30 2007 3:55 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Matthew,

<< It is the fact that the page is so large presumably, so that when printed
(scaled) on A4 it is all really small. The DBISAM manual is great. >>

Ahhh yes, I forgot about that.  Indeed, Acrobat will scale it down even
further to fit the A4 page size.

I'll make sure that I increase the printed font size for the PDFs.  It's no
big deal.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

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