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Thread ElevateDB for MacOS.
Fri, Jun 17 2016 10:15 PMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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Hi Tim,

Do you think there will eventually be a version of ElevateDB that can be used under MacOS?

I have been getting a lot of requests for a Mac version of my software and I don't really want to use a different database.

Thanks.

= Steve
Mon, Jun 20 2016 6:28 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Steve

I am a plus one on this, EDB for FireMonkey generally would be really useful.

I have not tried to do it, but I understand that you can use the FireDAC data components to connect to ElevateDB.

So, if you are happy to learn to use the new components, it is _possible_ to access EDB data in a FireMonkey application running on a Mac.

In this situation you would still need to run the EDBServer on a PC for CS access, but I guess that might be possible in many installations.

I'd be interested to hear whether any EDB-folk have tried this.
Mon, Jun 20 2016 7:53 AMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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Hi Adam,

<< I am a plus one on this, EDB for FireMonkey generally would be really useful.

I have not tried to do it, but I understand that you can use the FireDAC data components to connect to ElevateDB.

So, if you are happy to learn to use the new components, it is _possible_ to access EDB data in a FireMonkey application running on a Mac.

In this situation you would still need to run the EDBServer on a PC for CS access, but I guess that might be possible in many installations.

I'd be interested to hear whether any EDB-folk have tried this. >>

I've sort of given up writing MacOS and iOS applications using RAD Studio and FireMonkey because it seems you need to keep upgrading if you want your applications to be compatible with the latest versions of the Apple OSs.  It's just getting too expensive now to upgrade RAD Studio Professional and the mobile tools.  The quote I got the other day was around AUD2800.

So I've now started writing MacOS and iOS applications using XCode and Swift, which are free.  Mind you, the interface builder in XCode is horrible. Frown

= Steve
Mon, Jun 20 2016 10:13 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Steve

I agree.

The cost of RAD Studio upgrade is unreal, particularly when you consider so many other coding tools are now pretty much free. No one is going to adopt Delphi whatever its advantages when so many other products are free.

I feel Delphi users have a raw deal here. I love the language, and can afford the licence costs as my business pays, but it is killing the product.

If you are using XCode etc., then I guess you would be accessing Delphi in the Mac-equivalent of ODBC. If there is an ODBC server on a network, could your Mac Users access data from that?
Mon, Jun 20 2016 3:34 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Email timyoung@elevatesoft.com

Steve,

<< Do you think there will eventually be a version of ElevateDB that can be used under MacOS? >>

Well, I started writing it and implementing the cross-platform layers late last year, but got tripped up on some of the next-gen compiler bindings for Android/IOS (in terms of time involved) and held up on other things EWB-related.  It's something that I want to return to, and was hoping that Linux support would be coming this year so that I can justify doing it all at once.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Mon, Jun 20 2016 5:57 PMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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Hi Adam,

<< If you are using XCode etc., then I guess you would be accessing Delphi in the Mac-equivalent of ODBC. If there is an ODBC server on a network, could your Mac Users access data from that? >>

I'm not sure, I'll have to look into that.

= Steve
Wed, Jun 22 2016 4:42 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Steve

I already have Mac users accessing EDB in Excel over ODBC. The ODBC server is on a PC. The original Excel sheet is created on that PC and opened by the Mac users ...

It is one-way data (the Mac users only view they don't edit) but if you want to "just try" something to actually demo pushing data out from EDB across to Mac it is worth trying.
Wed, Jun 22 2016 4:44 AMPermanent Link

Adam Brett

Orixa Systems

Tim

Once it exists I will definitely give it a go.

Ideal starting point would just be a Query component which could connect to a remote EDBSrvr, and return data.

Even something cut down (like a read-only Query) would be fun and useful.
Wed, Jun 22 2016 8:12 AMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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<< I already have Mac users accessing EDB in Excel over ODBC. The ODBC server is on a PC. The original Excel sheet is created on that PC and opened by the Mac users ...

It is one-way data (the Mac users only view they don't edit) but if you want to "just try" something to actually demo pushing data out from EDB across to Mac it is worth trying. >>

Thanks Adam, that's a good idea.  Unfortunately most of them have Mac only networks.  I don't know if many of them would be willing to purchase a PC just for that.

= Steve
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