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Thread Opening tables as in DBISAM (dbsys) can do? SOS?
Fri, Oct 12 2007 10:15 AMPermanent Link

Durumdara
Hi!

In DBISAM is a good thing the simple table opening with dbsys.exe.

The temporary tables I can copy to another and I can open them to browse.
Or if I heard some problem from a client, I can ask it to send some tables and I can
checked (repair, optimize) them simply.

In EDB I cannot see same thing.
For example: I can see some temp tables in User/LocalSettings/Temp. How to I open them?
Or how to I make a dummy db, and how to register them into this database?

I tried to copy them into an existing db, but the DB not recognize them... Frown

Thanks for your effective help:
 dd






Fri, Oct 12 2007 6:13 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Durumdara,

<< In EDB I cannot see same thing.  For example: I can see some temp tables
in User/LocalSettings/Temp. How to I open them? Or how to I make a dummy db,
and how to register them into this database? >>

You wouldn't try to open a temporary table directly.   You would open it by
name, just like any other table.

Keep in mind that ElevateDB handles metadata completely differently than
DBISAM.  The two are not even close to being the same in terms of how
metadata for tables is stored and handled.  Likewise for the existence of
tables - tables must be present in the database catalog in order for EDB to
"see" them.  Just because they exist on disk in a certain directory means
nothing to EDB.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Sep 20 2010 11:26 PMPermanent Link

egu

apologies to dig this up after more than 2 years
im an end-user, not a developer with very very limited knowledge in programming. so what im saying is plain english is preferred for an ignorant like me.

anyway. ive been successful in using DBsys for editing data in databases based on dbisam
but software developer is migrating to EDB.
so unless im able to find an easy way to edit the data in EDB, im reluctant to follow them in migration
hope you can point me in the right direction.

ive downloaded EDBManager thinking maybe this will do the same with dbsys
initially encountered problems with connection using ANSI version, then i tried unicode.
setup, connected. to the test database from the developer
but i only shows 1 table. im sure there are more, i got into the software UI, just to make sure the tables are still there and working. and they are. then i tried all the options in EDBManager. i tried publish database, surprisingly i found all the rest of the tables im looking for in the list.

so im really confused. and im sure i didnt set it up correctly enough.
please help. my only objective is to be able to consistently edit data directly into the tables like i could in dbsys
Tue, Sep 21 2010 2:14 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

egu,

> so im really confused. and im sure i didnt set it up correctly enough.
> please help. my only objective is to be able to consistently edit data directly into the tables like i could in dbsys

First of all: EDBManager is *not* an end-user tool. Since you can do
*everything* with it like changing table structures, deleting table,
defining indexes etc., any manipulations could be dangerous.

If the developer of your application agrees, he should provide you with
the necessary information to open your database and edit your data.

Regards Uli

Tue, Sep 21 2010 2:36 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

+1

Roy Lambert

Uli Becker <johnmuller54@googlemail.com> wrote on Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:14:44 +0200

>egu,
>
>> so im really confused. and im sure i didnt set it up correctly enough.
>> please help. my only objective is to be able to consistently edit data directly into the tables like i could in dbsys
>
>First of all: EDBManager is *not* an end-user tool. Since you can do
>*everything* with it like changing table structures, deleting table,
>defining indexes etc., any manipulations could be dangerous.
>
>If the developer of your application agrees, he should provide you with
>the necessary information to open your database and edit your data.
>
>Regards Uli
>
>
Tue, Sep 21 2010 1:21 PMPermanent Link

egu

Uli Becker wrote:

egu,

First of all: EDBManager is *not* an end-user tool. Since you can do
i understand.

*everything* with it like changing table structures, deleting table,
defining indexes etc., any manipulations could be dangerous.


If the developer of your application agrees, he should provide you with
the necessary information to open your database and edit your data.

is there another way to edit the table's data directly?
just like dbsys? in case developer doesnt agree?

ow and, i hope u can help me set up EDBMan
i was successful in locating the database via client/server
but im stuck in figuring out why does it only shows one table
while if i did click publish database, i can see all the other tables? ( i didnt actually publish )
im just pointing out, the other tables are available for publishing but they dont appear in the laft pane

also, for every thing that i click to, it keeps telling me field 'attributes' not found

thanks for taking time
Tue, Sep 21 2010 2:46 PMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

<<
ow and, i hope u can help me set up EDBMan
>>

You are asking the same question one more time - you already know the answer.

Uli
Wed, Sep 22 2010 2:02 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

egu


Why are you not prepared to ask the applications developer for this facility?

Roy Lambert [Team Elevate]
Wed, Sep 22 2010 8:47 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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<< but i only shows 1 table. im sure there are more, i got into the software
UI, just to make sure the tables are still there and working. and they are.
then i tried all the options in EDBManager. i tried publish database,
surprisingly i found all the rest of the tables im looking for in the list.
>>

If certain tables aren't present, then you don't have the permissions to
access them.  I would contact the software vendor and find out the proper
way to get outside access to the database.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
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