Tim,

any further progress towards seperating the User interaction with the
server?  With Vista and I believe Server 2008, "Uncle Bill and Uncle Steve"
really don't want services to have any user interaction and prefer a
seperated GUI app to communicate with the service.

PITA if you ask me, but it prevents me from using the server as a service
until resolved.

Lance Rasmussen

Lance,

<< any further progress towards seperating the User interaction with the
server?  With Vista and I believe Server 2008, "Uncle Bill and Uncle Steve"
really don't want services to have any user interaction and prefer a
seperated GUI app to communicate with the service.

PITA if you ask me, but it prevents me from using the server as a service
until resolved. >>

Is there any particular reason that you can't use the No User Interaction
switch in the server ?  It's going to be at least a month before I can get a
chance to even look at this issue.  Delphi 2009 is taking resources away
from the planned improvements to do all of the new builds.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Actually...   no particular reason...    That involves paying attention to
the docs, doesn't it?   8-]

I thought Delphi 2009 only takes a couple minutes to move a project, compile
and distribute a bright shiny new app?  <grin>

I've got a few "minutes" I have to spend with component codery to get them
up to 2009.  uggh.

Lance


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any particular reason that you can't use the No User Interaction
> switch in the server ?  It's going to be at least a month before I can get
> a chance to even look at this issue.  Delphi 2009 is taking resources away
> from the planned improvements to do all of the new builds.
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Lance,

<< Actually...   no particular reason...    That involves paying attention
to the docs, doesn't it?   8-] >>

Yes, that would help.  However, my question was actually an honest one -
I don't use Vista day-to-day so I have to sometimes double-check on what it
allows or doesn't allow because I don't know it off the top of my head, and
I rarely fire up the Virtual PC where I have it installed.

<< I thought Delphi 2009 only takes a couple minutes to move a project,
compile and distribute a bright shiny new app?  <grin> >>

For ElevateDB, yes.  DBISAM is a different issue, altogether.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

I guess I'm (gasp) comparing some to how MSDE works.  Theres the GUI from
the system tray that starts/stops the server.

In your case, you have more advanced features for configuration which has to
be access via the GUI.

In "my world" I actually modified the server app to hide most of the
settings and only leave the option to change port number in case of a port
conflict (have yet to happen as I use a different port than out of box).

Personally, there are times I've had to shut down or restart the server.
I'd rather have this as a service, but general for development, I actually
use as a startup app, so this wouldn't be an issue.

I deal with a large range of users, to which a lot, you could say, would
consider "Computers for Dummies" as ADVANCED reading.  So if they have Vista
or now in some cases Server 2008, and they are in a multi-user computer
situation, I need both service and GUI setup.






> Yes, that would help.  However, my question was actually an honest
> one - I don't use Vista day-to-day so I have to sometimes double-check on
> what it allows or doesn't allow because I don't know it off the top of my
> head, and I rarely fire up the Virtual PC where I have it installed.

Lance,

<< I guess I'm (gasp) comparing some to how MSDE works.  Theres the GUI from
the system tray that starts/stops the server. >>

Yeah, and that is same type of setup that we'll have with 2.03 or 2.04.
I've just got to wait for the messaging layer to be put in place before I
can do an external monitor/systray application because it will rely on the
messaging layer for notifications.

<< In your case, you have more advanced features for configuration which has
to be access via the GUI. >>

Actually it's all just an .INI file here (XP):

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Elevate
Software\ElevateDB Server

So you can modify the settings in code using the .INI updating in Delphi.
You can find the sections, etc. here:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=mantopic&id=edb2sql&category=0&topic=3

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com