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TIMESTAMP NULL |
Thu, Jan 29 2009 6:55 PM | Permanent Link |
Phil Read | Hi,
How do I test for a TIMESTAMP field being NULL in ElevateDB? In DBISAM I could use the following: WHERE activeto <> NULL Also in the EDBManager a timestamp field without data is shown as NULL, so I thought it should work. Cheers! |
Thu, Jan 29 2009 7:38 PM | Permanent Link |
Leslie | Phil,
You could try WHERE activeto IS NOT NULL I am new to ElevateDB too, but this works in other DBMS. Leslie |
Thu, Jan 29 2009 7:54 PM | Permanent Link |
Phil Read | << You could try
WHERE activeto IS NOT NULL I am new to ElevateDB too, but this works in other DBMS. >> Lovely job, that did the trick, Thank you Leslie |
Thu, Jan 29 2009 7:55 PM | Permanent Link |
Fernando Dias Team Elevate | Phil,
Leslie is correct, you must use WHERE activeto IS NOT NULL. According to the SQL 2003 standard, that EDB follows, you can't say that NULL is equal or different from any other value, not even another NULL, because NULL means "Unknown" and if a value is not known you can't tell if it equals some other value or not. -- Fernando Dias [Team Elevate] |
Fri, Jan 30 2009 7:01 AM | Permanent Link |
Leslie | In some DBMS "IS [NOT] DISTINCT FROM" can be used to simplify the handling of such
situations. "Null IS DISTINCT FROM Null" results to "False" "Null IS NOT DISTINCT FROM Null" results to "True" |
Fri, Jan 30 2009 7:32 AM | Permanent Link |
Leslie | I was not clear enough. The situation I am refering to is only similar, not the same,
but I think it is worth mentioning here: There is no problem where Null is compared to a Field value as in Phil's question. Comparsion of Fields which both allowed to have Null values can be problematic. Field1=Field2 results to False when Field1 is null and Field2 is null In many times in application logic all NULLS are equal, so something like this is required to have proper comparsion: if Field1=Field2 or (Field1 =null and Field2 =null) then ... This is when IS DISTINCT FROM comes handy. I think it is more than being pretty, and having cleaner source. It saves from the potential problems caused by forgetting properly handling the NULL values. |
Fri, Jan 30 2009 10:59 AM | Permanent Link |
Fernando Dias Team Elevate | Leslie,
> I was not clear enough. No problem, I understood what you had in mind and I agree It can be handy. However, exactly because NULLs can be very confusing, I think the best approach is to follow the standards or don't use them at all. That's what I've decided to do in my DB designs: NULLs are allowed and used strictly "by the book" i.e. following SQL standards, or aren't allowed at all. -- Fernando Dias [Team Elevate] |
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