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Thread Controls provided with EWB2
Mon, Jan 26 2015 8:14 AMPermanent Link

Rick

Hi.

The EWB2 roadmap lists the following supplied controls: tabbed notebook,
menu, date/time picker.

Any chance of getting an early list of other controls that will be included?

Sorry for the impatience. Smile

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Rick
Mon, Jan 26 2015 2:18 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Rick,

<< Any chance of getting an early list of other controls that will be
included? >>

The only other really extra ones are the TToolBar, TBasicPanel, and
TGroupPanel controls.  But, there are several other controls that used to be
property options within existing controls.  For example, there's a
TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a Password property.  There's also
a TButtonComboBox for combo boxes that can't be edited (think mobile where
you don't want the soft keyboard popping up).  There's also a
TDialogEditComboBox instead of a Custom property.

Also, the TMenu may not make it into the initial release.  I'll have to see
what kind of time I have.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
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Tue, Jan 27 2015 1:48 AMPermanent Link

Rick

On 27/01/15 06:18, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
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> The only other really extra ones are the TToolBar, TBasicPanel, and
> TGroupPanel controls.  But, there are several other controls that used
> to be property options within existing controls.  For example, there's a
> TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a Password property.  There's
> also a TButtonComboBox for combo boxes that can't be edited (think
> mobile where you don't want the soft keyboard popping up).  There's also
> a TDialogEditComboBox instead of a Custom property.
>
> Also, the TMenu may not make it into the initial release.  I'll have to
> see what kind of time I have.
>

Thanks for the info Tim. Now to start thinking about a TTreeView and a
TProgressBar and maybe a TStatusBar. Smile

Could also be plenty of scope for an "EWB2 Component Design" book. You'd
probably sell a million!

By the way, will the new TGrid have fixed columns as well as rows? Will
the TForm/TPanel be mouse re-sizable at runtime now that the layout
capability allows for fluid control sizing?

Can you tell that I can't wait? Sorry, I'll shut up now.

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Rick
Tue, Jan 27 2015 4:06 AMPermanent Link

Matthew Jones

Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:

>  For example, there's a TPasswordEdit now instead of a TEdit with a
> Password property.

Can the password "hide" be turned off? That's important for some
purposes.
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:22 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Matthew,

<< Can the password "hide" be turned off? That's important for some
purposes. >>

No, you'll have to switch controls in order to do so.  Password inputs have
a very specific purpose in HTML and the browser do all sorts of special
things with them now in terms of auto-complete, etc. so I don't want to mix
up the two anymore.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:29 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Rick,

<< Thanks for the info Tim. Now to start thinking about a TTreeView and a
TProgressBar and maybe a TStatusBar. Smile>>

Actually, the TProgressBar is already done.  It's left out for now due to it
being included in my first control creation video for the preview.  After
that it will be included in the standard control set.  Look for a post about
the video some time today.

<< By the way, will the new TGrid have fixed columns as well as rows? Will
the TForm/TPanel be mouse re-sizable at runtime now that the layout
capability allows for fluid control sizing? >>

Both are things that are being kept in mind, but expect the initial controls
to be pretty much the same as their EWB 1 counterparts in terms of
control-specific behaviors.  The one big change with the grids will be the
fact that they will be virtual (TListBox controls are also virtual).  I
might include form re-sizing in the first release, but I have to see what
kind of time I have in the next month.  Once I get the grid done, I should
know more about what kind of time I have.  In general, the amount of code
required for most new controls is practically miniscule compared to EWB1, so
hopefully it won't take too long.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Tue, Jan 27 2015 6:45 AMPermanent Link

Rick

On 27/01/15 22:29, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
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> Look for a post about the video some time today.
>
Great stuff Tim, looking forward to the video.
>
> Both are things that are being kept in mind, but expect the initial
> controls to be pretty much the same as their EWB 1 counterparts in terms
> of control-specific behaviors.  The one big change with the grids will
> be the fact that they will be virtual (TListBox controls are also
> virtual).  I might include form re-sizing in the first release, but I
> have to see what kind of time I have in the next month.  Once I get the
> grid done, I should know more about what kind of time I have.  In
> general, the amount of code required for most new controls is
> practically miniscule compared to EWB1, so hopefully it won't take too
> long.
>

Virtualized grid sounds perfect. Will be great for performance.

I notice on the current component developers preview youtube video that
forms have an up and down button next to the close button at run time.
What do these do?

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Rick
Tue, Jan 27 2015 7:18 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Rick,

<< Virtualized grid sounds perfect. Will be great for performance. >>

The list boxes seem to be pretty snappy with it, so hopefully it will do the
same for the grids.  There will probably still be issues with having too
many columns, but that's easier to address for the developer.

<< I notice on the current component developers preview youtube video that
forms have an up and down button next to the close button at run time. What
do these do? >>

Minimize/maximize.  They're not super-useful for forms, but are useful for
panels.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Tue, Jan 27 2015 7:55 PMPermanent Link

Rick

On 27/01/15 22:29, Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
>
> Actually, the TProgressBar is already done.  It's left out for now due
> to it being included in my first control creation video for the
> preview.  After that it will be included in the standard control set.
>

Tim, do you have some sort of roadmap or list of controls that you
intend on including with future releases of EWB as part of the standard set?

I know that there's no problem doubling up but I would prefer not to go
ahead and create a particular control (e.g. treeview) if you will be
providing something similar in the near future.

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Rick
Wed, Jan 28 2015 7:13 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Rick,

<< Tim, do you have some sort of roadmap or list of controls that you intend
on including with future releases of EWB as part of the standard set? >>

Not yet, but I'll see if I can put something together.

<< I know that there's no problem doubling up but I would prefer not to go
ahead and create a particular control (e.g. treeview) if you will be
providing something similar in the near future. >>

I definitely won't be doing a treeview in the near future.  Most of the
controls that I've got in mind are simple ones.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
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