I've been evaluating SmartMobileStudio which is basically the same concept as Elevate Web Builder, an IDE which cross compiles to JS with a framework very similar to the Delphi VCL built atop HTML5   But they appear to be more focused on Mobile apps.

As a dbisam user, I'd rather use EWB but I don't know enough yet to determine if it will fit my needs.  My requirements are to create native iOS and Android apps.

Is this the general direction you plan on going?

If you are not familiar with PhoneGap, from what I understand it allows you to cross compile Javascript directly into iOS applications.

I too would like to know. EWB is, to my mind, a much better polished and more
focused product, putting Delphi in the browser. But mobile via PhoneGap should be a
fairly high priority - I sort of presume that it is on the roadmap. The alternative
seems to be much more delphi with a canvas and more DIY layout, which is excellent
for many things, but involves more work for the basic form stuff. EWB fits my needs
a lot closer, and Elevate Software have shown they can deliver quality.

/Matthew Jones/

EWB is pure javascript so it's Technically Phonegap cmopatible already
- main issues right now affecting this are viewport support (for screen
size control) and the theming (to control sizes and font etc).

Tim is working on both based on his various comments on NGs but not sure
of any ETAs at this time - my feeling is sooner rather than later.

The other aspect of Phonegap integration is access to native APIs -
since EWB does support external JS this shoudl also be doable but have
not tried.

Raul

NB! AFAIK Phonegap is not really native - it's a native wrapper
(phonegap launcher) around a device webview control.



On 1/28/2013 5:50 AM, (Matthew Jones) wrote:
> I too would like to know. EWB is, to my mind, a much better polished and more
> focused product, putting Delphi in the browser. But mobile via PhoneGap should be a
> fairly high priority - I sort of presume that it is on the roadmap. The alternative
> seems to be much more delphi with a canvas and more DIY layout, which is excellent
> for many things, but involves more work for the basic form stuff. EWB fits my needs
> a lot closer, and Elevate Software have shown they can deliver quality.
>
> /Matthew Jones/
>

Mark,

<< I've been evaluating SmartMobileStudio which is basically the same
concept as Elevate Web Builder, an IDE which cross compiles to JS with a
framework very similar to the Delphi VCL built atop HTML5   But they appear
to be more focused on Mobile apps.

As a dbisam user, I'd rather use EWB but I don't know enough yet to
determine if it will fit my needs.  My requirements are to create native iOS
and Android apps.

Is this the general direction you plan on going? >>

It (PhoneGap support) is something that we've got plans on addressing at
some point.  The main constraint right now is my time, so I've got to
prioritize and the priorities for mobile are getting EWB apps working well
in the mobile browsers first, and then adding external interfaces for
PhoneGap later.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

What with Embarcadero offering beta now for iOS with XE3, maybe mobile/phonegap isn't as important.  Just ordered my upgrade to XE3 so I can get the beta.

I still need a website with mobile capabilities that can as closely as possible mimic mobile apps though.

Is deploying as an ISAPI/ IIS in there?  Sorry, haven't taken the time yet to do a complete deep dive.

<<
"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:

Mark,

It (PhoneGap support) is something that we've got plans on addressing at
some point.  The main constraint right now is my time, so I've got to
prioritize and the priorities for mobile are getting EWB apps working well
in the mobile browsers first, and then adding external interfaces for
PhoneGap later.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com >>

Mark,

<< Is deploying as an ISAPI/ IIS in there?  Sorry, haven't taken the time
yet to do a complete deep dive. >>

Not currently, no.  However, you can use the EWB Web Server as a second web
server along with IIS for serving up dataset requests only.

If you have any other questions, please let me know.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Just to comment that I can get a basic ElevateWeb application running in Adobe Air.


Basic instructions are at
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/air/build/WS5b3ccc516d4fbf351e63e3d118666ade46-7ecc.html
and then I replaced the html file with the html of EWB.

A more complicated application fails to build because I'm using window.localStorage,
but that is probably fixable easily. The key is that it does work at least in part.
Will be playing with this further, particularly when the next update is out.

/Matthew Jones/

Matthew,

<< Just to comment that I can get a basic ElevateWeb application running in
Adobe Air. >>

Cool, thanks.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

I'm looking forward to the next update so I can adapt to the device width etc. I
shall not ask how it is going though. 8-)

/Matthew Jones/


(How is it going?)

(Darn, couldn't help it!)

Matthew,

<< (How is it going?) >>

I'm starting on the docs today.  All of the coding is done, so it shall see
the light of day soon.  This one's just been a doozy, with requirement after
requirement being added and the browsers, especially IE, just not
cooperating very much.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com