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Mon, Apr 1 2013 5:48 PMPermanent Link

Leslie

Thanks,


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:

Leslie,

<< This is something I have googled  and  could very well be unrelated, but
I do not have the time now to evaluate its relevance for the subject: >>

It is unrelated.  They're talking about pre-compiling JS/HTML code for use
as templates.

What you want is this discussion:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1096907/do-browsers-parse-javascript-on-every-page-load

and this:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/889195/do-browsers-compile-and-cache-javascript

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Tue, Apr 2 2013 4:37 AMPermanent Link

Matthew Jones

Surely that is a factor of low end hardware? When I test on my cheapo stuff, the
whole experience is really poor. Long waits and slow responses. Why would EWB be
any different? On reasonable hardware it is working fine, and it is just the load
time that matters and as Tim explained before, the fastest way to get it to load is
to load the minimum needed in one file. Going back for more files just adds delay.

Be sure to test the compressed option, from a server that supports the gzipped
download.

/Matthew Jones/
Tue, Apr 2 2013 9:10 AMPermanent Link

Raul

Globestar Systems

Team Elevate Team Elevate

On 4/1/2013 5:45 PM, Leslie wrote:
> you may be right but I still would like to see the numbers. Smile
As long as it's done somebody other than Tim - i'd like him to spend
time adding other new features.

> Have you tested your apps with  low end mobiles or tablets?
Lowest end i tested with is iPad Mini and Nexus 7 tablet. I know there
are cheaper devices but for consumer side the upgrade cycle rapid enough
that not worrying about them.

Raul
Tue, Apr 2 2013 4:17 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Leslie,

<< what I would like to speed up is exately the first time
loading/reloading. >>

And how is having the RTL split off into a separate JS file going to help
with that ?

<< I understand that EWB has not been optimized for mobiles yet, >>

As far as this issue concerned, it has most definitely been optimized.  You
won't find smaller code sizes around then what you get with EWB, considering
what's in the framework.

<< but I always do the user experience tests on the weakest targeted
hardware so I have checked. It was simply too slow.>>

Did you actually turn on compression in the project compiler options ?  Most
projects get down to under 300-400k with compression turned on, and small
projects are usually just over 200k.

Also, did you test with a recent version of EWB ?  There have been many
improvements to the RTL/framework that improve load time, and they have
nothing to do with the file sizes, rather they were issues with DOM
layout/rendering/lookup performance.  For example, the style sheet lookups
were drastically improved recently:

1.01 Build 5 Release Notes
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Elevate Web Builder 1.01 Build 5 includes the following enhancements:

The panel/form instantiation performance has been dramatically improved,
especially for Chrome and Safari (WebKit) browsers. The way that the theme
styles were interrogated has been improved so that the framework requires
less lookups into the active theme's style sheet, and that is responsible
for the performance improvement.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Wed, Apr 17 2013 11:17 AMPermanent Link

Leslie

Thanks,  this  thread helped to ease my mind. The picture is much clearer now.

Cheers,
Leslie
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