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Thread Delphi 2007
Sun, Apr 27 2008 5:57 PMPermanent Link

Steve Forbes

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Hi Henri,

Chrome is a top notch product that allows you to continue using your
Delphi/ObjectPascal knowledge in the .NET environment. RemObjects (who
produce Chrome) is another company with stellar support (just like
ElevateSoft), and a good vision for the future, they will be around for a
long time. The only drawback with Chrome is that it is restricted to .NET
--

Best Regards

Steve
[Team Elevate]

"Henri" <maash@home.nl> wrote in message
news:96AE2899-6B71-4F24-BB1E-95F8891BF0AB@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Jose,
>  See my experience below...
> Henri
>
> "Jose Eduardo Helminsky" <contato@hpro.com.br> schreef in bericht
> news:62256808-526C-4552-B66C-A2AAAE1A8801@news.elevatesoft.com...
>>I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or
>>CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from Delphi 6
>>SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio  also known as "Delphi 2007 for Win32".
>
> I also moved from Delphi 6 (under winXP) to Delphi 2007 (under Vista). No
> problems here
>
>>
>> Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005,
>> BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack
>> installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb
>> RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata).
>
> I have also a Dell with the same specs, again no problems
>
>>
>> Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but
>> what we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is
>> very hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla
>
> Delphi 2007 Help, yes still terrible, I for one miss the examples and
> simple explenation of the properties and methods of the (new visual)
> VCL/RTL library.
>
>>
>> Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I don´t think so.
>>
>> New features ? I can´t see nothing absolutelety new.
>
> Only some vista/xp gui components, but i agee with you that it is not
> spectacular
>
>>
>> Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it  time to code .NET
>> ?
>
> Mayby Chrome has a future?
> It looks good
> Does anyone out here has experiance with Chrome?
>
>>
>> Eduardo
>>
>>
>

Tue, Apr 29 2008 4:45 PMPermanent Link

Lance Rasmussen

Jazzie Software

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Team Elevate Team Elevate

I don't know that Codegear is necessarily advertising that the applications
built with D2007 will clock in faster than D7.   I think a lot of it will
have to do with any third party components.    Doing a hello world
application pretty much runs about the same.

However, D2007 has been built with Vista compatability (running it under)
and has many things underneath that will provide a better UI using ComCtrls6
with base components as well as several other things.

That's one of the more highlighted reasons I upgrade is having the compiler
/ RTL support for the newer OS's.

Lance




"Hershcu S" <sorinh@zahav.net.il> wrote in message
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> Mostly faster to run an application
> Sorin
>
>>
>> Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile,
>> or faster when run as an application?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>
>
Tue, Apr 29 2008 5:04 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
> Chrome is a top notch product that allows you to continue using your
> Delphi/ObjectPascal knowledge in the .NET environment. RemObjects
> (who produce Chrome) is another company with stellar support (just
> like ElevateSoft), and a good vision for the future, they will be
> around for a long time. The only drawback with Chrome is that it is
> restricted to .NET

I'll second Chrome--very good product, ahead of even Microsoft in
supporting new .NET features!  It's fun to program in.

--
David Cornelius
corneliusconcepts.com
custom designed software
Tue, Apr 29 2008 5:16 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
> I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or
> CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from
> Delphi 6 SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio  also known as "Delphi 2007 for
> Win32".

I started with Delphi when it was Turbo Pascal 3.  Every few years (or
months?) someone questions whether Borland (or now CodeGear) will last
much longer.  They've been around for over 20 years and still have not
only a steadfast following, but also a roadmap for future enhancements.
I think they are listening more to their customers (us developers) than
they have for a long time.  There's no reason (IMHO) to question their
existance and continued product update for the foreseeable future.

I moved a project from Delphi 6 to Delphi 2005 a couple of years ago.
It was hard because of all the bugs and the new interface, but worth it
in the long run.  D2006 was a welcome relief, and is very solid and
works well for the Win32 development I do.  I also use D2007 (at a
different company) and they are both solid and very similar.

The support for new development enhancements and Windows features are
very much worth the effort to upgrade your projects.


--
David Cornelius
corneliusconcepts.com
custom designed software
Wed, Apr 30 2008 6:25 AMPermanent Link

"Henri"
Hallo Steve,

Because my Delphi programming is an hobby of mine and only when i have an
interesting hobbyproject i program.
I also have times i do not program for months. So i always have to take the
learningcurve again (although that goes quickly) and look for as few extra
components as possible and also for the easyist ones like DBISAM. Thats what
keeping me away from elevateDB sofar.

I also need good online help with examples, sofar Delphi2007 did not help me
with that. Yesterday i installed helpupdate 3 (apr '08). A quick browsing
through this updated help gives me hope again, because i saw many
code-examples returned.

For now i stick with Delphi, because two programmingenviroments for a
hobbyist like me is one to many en to expensive.

And yes i have again an interesting hobbyproject again... Development of an
energiemanagementtool for wastewater compagnies, so i'm half way on the
learningcurve again.

Greeting,
Henri


"Steve Forbes [Team Elevate]" <ozmosys@spamfreeoptusnet.com.au> schreef in
bericht news:90C066F2-6A0C-4ECC-8CDA-8AA634A65FF8@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Hi Henri,
>
> Chrome is a top notch product that allows you to continue using your
> Delphi/ObjectPascal knowledge in the .NET environment. RemObjects (who
> produce Chrome) is another company with stellar support (just like
> ElevateSoft), and a good vision for the future, they will be around for a
> long time. The only drawback with Chrome is that it is restricted to .NET
> --
>
> Best Regards
>
>
Wed, Apr 30 2008 10:55 AMPermanent Link

Arnd Baranowski
Why do you think that applications should run faster?

Arnd

Hershcu S wrote:

> Mostly faster to run an application
> Sorin
>
>
>>Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile,
>>or faster when run as an application?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Dan
>>
>
>
>
Wed, Apr 30 2008 11:16 AMPermanent Link

"Hershcu S"
> Why do you think that applications should run faster?
>
> Arnd

because on this issue, I get the majority of requests and complains from my
clients

Sorin

Wed, Apr 30 2008 2:53 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Hershcu,

<< because on this issue, I get the majority of requests and complains from
my clients >>

Well, in that case you should never use .Net. Wink

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Thu, May 1 2008 4:10 AMPermanent Link

"Hershcu S"
Yes, I know that

> << because on this issue, I get the majority of requests and complains
> from my clients >>
>
> Well, in that case you should never use .Net. Wink
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

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