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Sat, Jan 10 2009 5:36 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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I've had a couple of emails from people of this newsgroup recently. No problem with that but I operate a whitelist policy for my domestic (ie this one) email and I nearly missed them since their emails went into the spam folder.

I'm happy to receive mail from almost anyone off these ngs but I'd suggest a post here first and wait a couple of days so I can get the address into my whitelist and make sure I don't miss any emails.

Roy Lambert
Sat, Jan 10 2009 2:02 PMPermanent Link

"Jerry Clancy"
That's just one of the many problems I have with whitelisting, which I
refuse to use. Virtually all my junk mail goes to a junk folder but I always
eyeball the from/to/subject before deleting it to make sure there wasn't a
"false positive". Takes, typically, 1-2 seconds.

Jerry

"Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I've had a couple of emails from people of this newsgroup recently. No
> problem with that but I operate a whitelist policy for my domestic (ie
> this one) email and I nearly missed them since their emails went into the
> spam folder.
>
> I'm happy to receive mail from almost anyone off these ngs but I'd suggest
> a post here first and wait a couple of days so I can get the address into
> my whitelist and make sure I don't miss any emails.
>
> Roy Lambert
Mon, Jan 12 2009 4:04 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Jerry


You must be severely under-spammed. I'll ask a few to include you in their mailing lists Smiley

On an average day I get c250 onto my domestic account and c1000 to my business account.

Roy Lambert
Mon, Jan 12 2009 8:50 PMPermanent Link

"Jerry Clancy"
Our service provider filters out some 95% of it, apparently, and I've yet to
get a message or call from someone saying, "Didn't you get my email?" Prior
to switching over a year ago I was in your boat, but I still wouldn't have
used whitelisting. Really bad for business. You never want to erect a
barrier to entry like that, IMHO.

Jerry

"Roy Lambert" <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Jerry
>
>
> You must be severely under-spammed. I'll ask a few to include you in their
> mailing lists Smiley
>
> On an average day I get c250 onto my domestic account and c1000 to my
> business account.
>
> Roy Lambert
>
Tue, Jan 13 2009 2:45 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Jerry


Just before Christmas Yahoo decided that anything coming from one of the servers at my ISP was spam. We found out because my wife has her email account on the same server and one of her friends in the village complained he wasn't getting any emails. Researching on the web I found several stories about Yahoo doing this, and stats saying that c20% of valid business emails are treated in this way.

This is the third time Yahoo have done this sort of thing to me. This time the only way I've been able to resolve it for the business side is to have my ISP switch servers for my domain.

My anti-spam precautions go

HEADERS
1. if not to a valid email address on the domain - bomb it
2. no from address - bomb it
3. numeric start to the address - bomb it (unless its from domains like compuserve)
4. blacklisted address - bomb it
5. banned words in the subject - bomb it
6. mismatch between from and reply to - send to suspicious folder

Then I download the email and carry out user rules which may result in the email being deleted or being directed to a specific folder

Finally I do a bayesian filter and depending on the result direct to the suspicious or spam folder or delete.

The reason for the post was that after all that, the email I spotted was in a batch of 68 in the spam folder - its easy to miss.

Roy Lambert
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