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Thread DBISAM v5 and a lite version
Fri, Feb 3 2006 8:55 PMPermanent Link

"R. Tipton"

> Firebird I hate because it does not even has a BOOL
> type, and I hate Oracle because it's simply crabshit.
>

Come on the boolean is an easy workaround how do
you think the Feds use it in liedetectors Wink

Crabshit I guess you figured that out from your diving
software Wink
Rita


Sun, Feb 5 2006 7:03 PMPermanent Link

"Adam H."
Personally, I think Tim has already got a great solution.

Free Fully functional trial-demo, that only has a nag screen. This allowed
me to write my first dbisam application fully, to make sure that it was what
I required before I purchased DBISam, and then releasing the final product.

*If* Tim ever did reconsider having a freeby, I think Sean has good
suggestions, but I offer the following thoughts (not saying it's the best
idea, but more brainstorming - opening it for discussion Smiley :

1) Leaving things how they are now, but changing the license agreement on
the Trial version as follows:

   a) The nag screen reworded to say "This uses
        the freeware version of DBISam. This product
        can be bought...."

   b) Changing the license to allow people to use
       it for more than trial - non-commercial personal,
       etc as sean - as long as the 'nag' screen remains
       intact.

or

2) Maybe having a maximum number of tables allowed open - and records per
table, to limit the data that could be used.

Either way though, this doesn't get past the support problem Tim may face
with extra newsgroup users asking questions on a product they didn't
purchase.

Cheers

Adam.

"Sean McCall" <NoSpam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:737689B5-4D82-447D-98E9-0DB722A650C0@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Single connection / local access only / licensed only for
> non-commercial use / provided as-is with no warranty /
> automatically created readme.txt in database folder that
> describes the free database & how to get a commercial copy -
> discourages unlicensed commercial use. Otherwise fully
> functional.

Mon, Feb 6 2006 7:29 AMPermanent Link

> BTW :  I hope I did not personally offend you in my first post.
> Rereading it, it was a bit heavy handed.

Not at all. I'm open to ideas, and particularly that I may be wrong. It is
an issue that we face selling our products, so exploring it is useful.

/Matthew Jones/
Mon, Feb 6 2006 11:19 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Adam,

<< 2) Maybe having a maximum number of tables allowed open - and records per
table, to limit the data that could be used. >>

Actually, one thing I did forget to mention is that the trial version of
ElevateDB does not use a nag screen anymore - it simply limits the number of
concurrent sessions to 5 for both local and server applications.  The reason
for this is the problems with non-UI stuff like the ODBC driver in ASP.NET
applications.  We're constantly having to give out full versions of the ODBC
driver for testing to work around this issue.  Frankly, I don't keep track
of them after that point, so I have a feeling that in some cases we're
getting taken advantage of. Wink

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Mon, Feb 6 2006 5:26 PMPermanent Link

"Mike Shkolnik"
> The reason for this is the problems with non-UI stuff like the ODBC driver
in
> ASP.NET applications.
This is new interested topic.
Maybe someone know the way to detect if "we're running from ASP"?
I have the same problem - I have the ActiveX control and some customers want
to test it on server-side (ASP and ASP.NET) but I don't know how to hide the
trial warning there.
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With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
E-mail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
WEB: http://www.scalabium.com

Tue, Feb 7 2006 10:58 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Mike,

<< This is new interested topic.
Maybe someone know the way to detect if "we're running from ASP"?  I have
the same problem - I have the ActiveX control and some customers want to
test it on server-side (ASP and ASP.NET) but I don't know how to hide the
trial warning there. >>

I think MadExcept and some others have figured out a way to do it via
dumping text out vs. using a windowed control, but frankly, I'm happy with
just limiting the number of concurrent sessions.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

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