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Thread OT: Something queer has hppened to Outlook Express
Tue, May 9 2006 6:33 PMPermanent Link

Jeff Cook
Hi

Totally OT !  This happened before I shot over to Rarotonga for a quick holiday and I've just built up the courage to have another look at it.

My app allows users to send emails which optionally uses .eml format and Outlook Express Client - basically the program fills in the address details and pops up the mail client for them to enter the message.  Just before I went away, users started reporting that the "Send" button was missing.  I tested it and, blow me down, it was true!  However, this has not affected all users - at least not many have complained.

I've pasted below part of the send email procedure that I use (and has worked at least for the last 6 years!).  My guess is that M$ has autoupdated OE on some machines and broken my code.  I tried adding a Return-Path  and a Sender in case OE was now insisting on these - to no avail.

I tried using OE to create an email, saved it as a draft, opened it and saved it as a .eml file and the format seems the same as my file and it also has the same problemo of no "Send" button when I just double-click it in Window Explorer.

All answers, clues, suggestions and raspberries gratefully accepted.

Cheers

Jeff


The code:-
========================================
if EmlFormat = 'Yes' then
 begin
   TempFileName := apmDM.GetTempFileName('.eml', True);
...
     AssignFile(F, TempFileName);
     Rewrite(F);
     Writeln(F, 'Return-Path: <jeffc@aspect.co.nz>');       // Added for testing
     Writeln(F, 'From: "Jeff Cook" <jeffc@aspect.co.nz>');  // Added for testing
     Writeln(F, 'To: "' + EMail + '"');
     if CopiesCommaSeparated <> '' then
       Writeln(F, 'Cc: "' + CopiesCommaSeparated + '"');
     Writeln(F, 'Subject: ' + Subject);
     Writeln(F, 'X-Unsent: 1');
     Writeln(F, 'Content-Type: text/html;');
     Writeln(F, '');
     Writeln(F, '<HTML><BODY>');
     Writeln(F, MessageText);       // sometimes the procedure is called with a
                                                 // preformatted message, sometimes it is blank
     Writeln(F, '</BODY></HTML>');
     CloseFile(F);
     ShellExecute(Application.Handle, nil, PChar(TempFileName),
       nil, nil, SW_SHOWNORMAL);
   end
   

==============================================



--
Jeff Cook
Aspect Systems Ltd
Phone: +64-9-424 5388
Skype: jeffcooknz
www.aspect.co.nz



Wed, May 10 2006 2:57 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Jeff


Just tried here with OE 6.00.2900.2180 XP sp2

Saved an email down from TMaN, double clicked the file and not only is the Send button missing, but also all the editing buttons. The icon displayed when I Alt-Tab between that one and a mail I create in OE is also different.

Here at least it looks as though its opening the mail in view only mode

Checking the one created by OE there's a new field in the headers "X-Unsent: 1". If I add that into the email saved from TMaN things work. Good old M$

Roy Lambert
Wed, May 10 2006 5:29 PMPermanent Link

Jeff Cook
Roy Lambert <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote on Wed, 10 May 2006 07:55:44 +0100

>Jeff
>
>
>Just tried here with OE 6.00.2900.2180 XP sp2
>
>Saved an email down from TMaN, double clicked the file and not only is the Send button missing, but also all the editing buttons. The icon displayed when I Alt-Tab between that one and a mail I create in OE is also different.
>
>Here at least it looks as though its opening the mail in view only mode
>
>Checking the one created by OE there's a new field in the headers "X-Unsent: 1". If I add that into the email saved from TMaN things work. Good old M$
>
>Roy Lambert
>
Roy


I have the "X-Unsent: 1" line in my message and we seem to be using the same version of OE i.e. 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm040803-2158) but it doesn't work for me.  

I've attached a file from my app that doesn't work - does it for you?

Cheers

Jeff
--
Jeff Cook
Aspect Systems Ltd
Phone: +64-9-424 5388
Skype: jeffcooknz
www.aspect.co.nz








Attachments: 00000924.eml
Thu, May 11 2006 3:11 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Jeff


Its fine here (I should have noticed the x-unsent line in your code, but I get the send and edit buttons. Is this one where you don't? If so lets compare os etc. I'm running XP sp2 with firewall off, M@ailDefence for antivirus.


btw I think 5 users but 9999 landlords is an interesting combination, but shouldn't it also say how many tenants?


Roy Lambert
Thu, May 11 2006 4:26 PMPermanent Link

"Mike Shkolnik"
Jeff,

did you try to create the plain text message, not html?
Maybe your OE build prohibits to open for edit the html-formatted eml-file
(new "security" warning from Microsoft)?

Just as idea because I haven't such build of OE installed here...
--
With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
E-mail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
WEB: http://www.scalabium.com

"Jeff Cook" <jeffc@aspect.co.nz> wrote in message
news:03192C82-694C-4968-B2FF-486A1CA282B4@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Roy Lambert <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote on Wed, 10 May 2006 07:55:44
+0100
>
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >Just tried here with OE 6.00.2900.2180 XP sp2
> >
> >Saved an email down from TMaN, double clicked the file and not only is
the Send button missing, but also all the editing buttons. The icon
displayed when I Alt-Tab between that one and a mail I create in OE is also
different.
> >
> >Here at least it looks as though its opening the mail in view only mode
> >
> >Checking the one created by OE there's a new field in the headers
"X-Unsent: 1". If I add that into the email saved from TMaN things work.
Good old M$
> >
> >Roy Lambert
> >
> Roy
>
>
> I have the "X-Unsent: 1" line in my message and we seem to be using the
same version of OE i.e. 6.00.2900.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm040803-2158) but it
doesn't work for me.
>
> I've attached a file from my app that doesn't work - does it for you?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jeff
> --
> Jeff Cook
> Aspect Systems Ltd
> Phone: +64-9-424 5388
> Skype: jeffcooknz
> www.aspect.co.nz
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thu, May 11 2006 5:23 PMPermanent Link

Jeff Cook
Roy Lambert <roy.lambert@skynet.co.uk> wrote on Thu, 11 May 2006 08:09:59 +0100

>Jeff
>
>
>Its fine here (I should have noticed the x-unsent line in your code, but I get the send and edit buttons. Is this one where you don't? If so lets compare os etc. I'm running XP sp2 with firewall off, M@ailDefence for antivirus.

Yes, that was one where I got not <Send> button - I hadn't really noticed th lack of edit buttons, spell check, attachments etc because I don't normally use OE - I'm using Outlook normally (and or course TMaN for newsgroups!).

Courtesy of madExcept, here are my system details:-

DBISAM Version : 3.30
Session.RemoteAddress: 127.0.0.1
Session.Host: localhost
Remote.Type: rtLAN
Session.Type: stLocal

date/time         : 2006-05-12, 08:57:13, 359ms
computer name     : ASL3
user name         : Jeff Cook <admin>
operating system  : Windows XP Service Pack 2 build 2600
system language   : English
system up time    : 1 day 5 hours
program up time   : 15 seconds
processor         : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
physical memory   : 46/479 MB (free/total)
free disk space   : (CSmile9.45 GB
display mode      : 1024x768, 32 bit
process id        : $bbc
allocated memory  : 12.47 MB
command line      : "C:\Delphi\Projects\PropMan\apm.exe" -i
executable        : apm.exe
exec. date/time   : 2006-05-12 08:56
version           : 3.9.10.1
madExcept version : 3.0a
callstack crc     : $bb2ac731, $2c08683d, $2c08683d
exception number  : 1
exception message : The application seems to be frozen.

I've tried stopping the Windows Firewall and AVG antivirus  - still not go.

Followed Mike's suggestion and edited out the HTML content and still no <Send>

>
>
>btw I think 5 users but 9999 landlords is an interesting combination, but shouldn't it also say how many tenants?
>
Well, it is from my test database, but 5 users relates to the number of connections to the DBISAM Server where we charge on a per-seat basis (file server connections are free).  We don't restrict the number of landlords except for a special deal whereby a single landlord (rather than a property management company) can use the the system for however many properties he owns.   9999 effectively means no restrictions and we have people running it for 6 landlords and for 1500+ landlords.


Cheers

Jeff
--
Jeff Cook
Aspect Systems Ltd
Phone: +64-9-424 5388
Skype: jeffcooknz
www.aspect.co.nz



Thu, May 11 2006 5:30 PMPermanent Link

Jeff Cook
"Mike Shkolnik" <mshkolnik2002@ukr.net> wrote on Thu, 11 May 2006 23:21:52 +0300

>Jeff,
>
>did you try to create the plain text message, not html?
>Maybe your OE build prohibits to open for edit the html-formatted eml-file
>(new "security" warning from Microsoft)?
>
>Just as idea because I haven't such build of OE installed here...
>--
>With best regards, Mike Shkolnik
>E-mail: mshkolnik@scalabium.com
>WEB: http://www.scalabium.com

>
Mike


No ,I hadn't tried plain text, but I just did and still the same problem.  Not sure where I go from here.  I would have thought that if this problem was common then Google would have turned up some answers, but it looks like it is just me that has done something dumb!

Thanks

Jeff

--
Jeff Cook
Aspect Systems Ltd
Phone: +64-9-424 5388
Skype: jeffcooknz
www.aspect.co.nz



Fri, May 12 2006 3:35 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Jeff


Looking at that, and eyeballing the eml you sent I can't see any reason. Do you know which version of OE the other people who are having trouble are running?

My guess is something to do with OE or XP settings rather than anything you're doing. Can you send screenshots of your OE settings?

Roy Lambert
Fri, May 12 2006 7:37 AMPermanent Link

"GregF"
as a champion googler I did the search for you
try this

outlook no send button eml file

you will get the answer
it appears a M$ patch released in April is the culprit

try uninstalling it

discussion
http://www.techzonez.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18541

patch
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-016.mspx

regards
GregF

Fri, May 12 2006 7:52 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

GregF


Never even thought of that (or googling either). I don't think I've applied any updates recently - in fact I gave up after leaving my pc connected all weekend and getting nowhere.

Roy Lambert
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