When will you have help files that is supported by Windows Vista?

The old .hlp con not be read in Vista.

-Geir-

Don't you just love Microsoft ?

Vista has given me a new found appreciation for XP

JT
"Geir Bratlie" <geir@royal.no> wrote in message
news:34522A74-C39D-4029-B867-AAA155C20A42@news.elevatesoft.com...
> When will you have help files that is supported by Windows Vista?
>
> The old .hlp con not be read in Vista.
>
> -Geir-
>

John


I don't know about Vista, but I'm thoroughly fed up (being polite cos its a public forum) with the new Help 2.0. Or to put it another way - how to make something that was helpful and useful a complete pigs ear.

Now you are no longer able to read help outside of the app its intended for. It runs slowly - typical M$ product really

Roy Lambert

Roy Lambert wrote:
> John
>
>
> I don't know about Vista, but I'm thoroughly fed up (being polite cos its a public forum) with the new Help 2.0. Or to put it another way - how to make something that was helpful and useful a complete pigs ear.
>
> Now you are no longer able to read help outside of the app its intended for. It runs slowly - typical M$ product really
>
> Roy Lambert
>

Roy,
    So why can't someone write an application whose sole purpose is to
read .hlp files, any .hlp file? They could clean up.

Sam

>     So why can't someone write an application whose sole purpose is to
> read .hlp files, any .hlp file? They could clean up.

Because the file format is partially undocumented and very difficult to
import.

I spent ages trying to figure out the HLP import.

vizacc wrote:

>>    So why can't someone write an application whose sole purpose is to
>>read .hlp files, any .hlp file? They could clean up.
>
>
> Because the file format is partially undocumented and very difficult to
> import.
>
> I spent ages trying to figure out the HLP import.
>
>
There are utilities that will convert .hlp to .doc or PDF. I'm assuming
of course Vista still supports PDF & .DOC files.

Sam

"Sam Davis" <sammyd432@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1E6CD734-52FD-48B5-9C53-23E0A3337FA1@news.elevatesoft.com...
> vizacc wrote:
>
> There are utilities that will convert .hlp to .doc or PDF. I'm assuming of
> course Vista still supports PDF & .DOC files.
>

dotHLP my original help authoring tool launched dotCHM and it
also converted HLP files to CHM I dont know what format they
use in Vista but if its CHM then try Fast-Help thats the new
product name for dotHLP
http://www.fast-help.com/

hth
Rita

Well..  As much as I "love" uncle Bill....

They have been trying to get away from the HLP files to move towards
CHM HTML help for a LONG time and were going to pull the plug in Vista.

To be fair... they've been saying they were going to kill HLP files for
some time now.

Doesn't mean we have to like it, tho.

Then again...  If you haven't payed attention, Microsoft is not
INCLUDING the HLP reader in the OS install of Vista, but is making it
available as a download.  It is a Non-Redistributable, so it requires
the customer to actively do this.

So it CAN be read in Vista.

Lance R




Geir Bratlie wrote:
> When will you have help files that is supported by Windows Vista?
>
> The old .hlp con not be read in Vista.
>
> -Geir-
>

> Then again...  If you haven't payed attention, Microsoft is not
> INCLUDING the HLP reader in the OS install of Vista, but is making it
> available as a download.  It is a Non-Redistributable, so it requires
> the customer to actively do this.

Can you show me where and how? I heard this too, but when I installed
Vista and my app I pressed F1 to be told that the app was old and help not
supported. Click the link to get more info. You get taken to a page that
tells the user HLP is old and no good any more, and to ask the vendor for
a new version. There is NO link to a solution like "but to continue using
your old and stinky app, click here for a download". So although there
may, somewhere, be a download, the end user isn't offered it.

/Matthew Jones/

Geir,

<< When will you have help files that is supported by Windows Vista?

The old .hlp con not be read in Vista. >>

We know, but HTML help cannot be used in the older Delphi IDEs.   We're
caught between a rock and a hard place.  For now you'll have to use the PDFs
under Vista until we figure out something.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com