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ElevateDB Error #506 Cannot Lock the Session Manager (ID:1). |
Tue, Mar 8 2016 7:59 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Charles,
<< I'm interested, as I saw this error on Friday, D10S, EDB 2.22b1. Program left doing not a lot, but with open tables in remote session, running in a VM. It does however periodically, on a timer tick, run a query to update certain info displayed in the GUI. The first thing the timer tick event does is disable the timer. >> If you have a reproducible situation where you're seeing this and you think it's a bug, please email me a project that does so and I'll take a look. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Mar 8 2016 9:24 AM | Permanent Link |
Charles Bainbridge | <<Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
If you have a reproducible situation where you're seeing this and you think it's a bug, please email me a project that does so and I'll take a look. >> If we can isolate it, we will see if we can reproduce it in a small example. This is happening in a large, rather unwieldy front-end to our system which has grown somewhat over the 20 years since its Delphi 1 birth. |
Tue, Mar 8 2016 11:15 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Charles,
<< If we can isolate it, we will see if we can reproduce it in a small example. This is happening in a large, rather unwieldy front-end to our system which has grown somewhat over the 20 years since its Delphi 1 birth. >> I certainly understand. In the meantime, I'll also keep looking here to see if I can spot anything. Also, if anyone else in the thread has any leads on a reproducible example, please forward on to me. Thanks, Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Thu, Mar 10 2016 9:26 AM | Permanent Link |
Charles Bainbridge | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
<< Also, if anyone else in the thread has any leads on a reproducible example, please forward on to me. >> Tim, not much help I'm afraid, but we're as certain as we can be here that we had never seen a #506 before we upgraded to 2.22 recently. We're now over 3 years down the road with our rather large conversion project from DBISAM to EDB. The main part of the system has been up and running with EDB for over 2 years. |
Thu, Mar 10 2016 9:42 AM | Permanent Link |
Charles Bainbridge | And I should add that Scott has seen this principally while debugging in the IDE.
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Thu, Mar 10 2016 3:50 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | << Did you have to make this post - now I have received one - first ever. >> No need to thank me. = Steve |
Thu, Mar 10 2016 3:52 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | Hi Matthew,
"Matthew Jones" wrote: << Timers can be re-entrant, so you need to check that the timer is not already doing things. I use a simple boolean on the form for such checks. The lock is probably better, but I mention it just in case. >> I believe I'm using a flag but I'll double check to make sure. = Steve |
Thu, Mar 17 2016 4:33 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | 3 more customers have reported this error message. In each case they left the application running overnight with no-one actively using it.
= Steve |
Fri, Mar 18 2016 12:27 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Steve,
<< 3 more customers have reported this error message. In each case they left the application running overnight with no-one actively using it. >> I finally found the problem: it's a bug in the way the locking was changed in 2.22. Basically, EDB is not giving the locks enough wait time to cover when a ping occurs, so any operation that randomly conflicts with the ping thread will raise this error. I'm sending Charles a version to test, and I can do the same for you if you'd like to confirm the fix before I do a build 3. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Fri, Mar 18 2016 11:10 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | Hi Tim,
<< I finally found the problem: it's a bug in the way the locking was changed in 2.22. Basically, EDB is not giving the locks enough wait time to cover when a ping occurs, so any operation that randomly conflicts with the ping thread will raise this error. I'm sending Charles a version to test, and I can do the same for you if you'd like to confirm the fix before I do a build 3. >> That's great news. Sure, I'd be happy to test it. = Steve |
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