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Sun, Sep 28 2008 6:03 AM | Permanent Link |
"David Cornelius" | > I might be wrong on this - this might have been done after B5 was
> released. I'm making so many changes in the EDB Manager, it's hard to > keep up. I'm glad it's in there for the next release then! -- David Cornelius CorneliusConcepts.com |
Tue, Sep 30 2008 10:55 AM | Permanent Link |
"Jeremy Knowles" | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
><< Hopefully someone has, since there is a driver for it in DA, but noone >at RO seems to know either! There was me thinking if I waited while EDB >was around a while, the problems would be less >> > >We didn't write the driver for DA, so I have no idea who did, but I would >assume that RO did so. They did, but it looks like it was for version 1, but they've said they're going to see about getting a copy of version 2 (I guess no-one else is using it yet). -- Jeremy Knowles |
Tue, Sep 30 2008 12:38 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Jeremy,
<< They did, but it looks like it was for version 1, but they've said they're going to see about getting a copy of version 2 (I guess no-one else is using it yet). >> The version 1 driver should be usable with version 2 without any changes. I can't remember any breaking changes to the SQL, etc. that would affect them. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Tue, Sep 30 2008 12:55 PM | Permanent Link |
"Jeremy Knowles" | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
>The version 1 driver should be usable with version 2 without any changes. >I can't remember any breaking changes to the SQL, etc. that would affect >them. It's the connection string that I'm having trouble getting to work, which then requests a list of tables. -- Jeremy Knowles |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 11:41 AM | Permanent Link |
"Jeremy Knowles" | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
><< Great, thanks, presumably I just uninstall the one I have in 2007 and >download/install the unicode one then? >> > >Yes. OK, I did that, now I can't open the database as I'm getting the following error: ElevateDB Error #100 There is an error in the metadata for the configuration DocsConfig (Signature, password, character set (ANSI/Unicode), or version number mismatch) There must be a way, but I can't see it, and there's no migrator thingy -- Jeremy Knowles |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 12:03 PM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | Jeremy
The only way I can think of is to use the ansi version of EDBManager to reverse engineer the database with data, then use the unicode version of EDBManager to create the database from the script - I haven't tried it but hopefully it would work. Roy Lambert [Team Elevate] |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 12:13 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Jeremy,
<< OK, I did that, now I can't open the database as I'm getting the following error: >> That's normal - you can't interchange the ANSI with the Unicode databases. It's either one or the other. This is also an issue with the migrators, which is why we don't allow for migration from ANSI to Unicode, or vice-versa. The actual migrator DLLs themselves are also distinctly either ANSI or Unicode, including all of the migrator calls into the DLLs. Roy's suggestion is the solution. You need to reverse-engineer the tables into an SQL script, change any ANSI collations to UNI, and then run the SQL script against the new Unicode database. It's a PIA, but it's the only solution for now. Eventually we're expecting ANSI to slowly fade away as 16-bit Unicode becomes the standard character set in use, which is why the design was done this way. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 1:00 PM | Permanent Link |
"Jeremy Knowles" | Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> >Roy's suggestion is the solution. You need to reverse-engineer the tables >into an SQL script, change any ANSI collations to UNI, and then run the >SQL script against the new Unicode database. It's a PIA, but it's the >only solution for now. Righto! I guess you could get the manager to automate this in the background, but I only need to do it this once so I don't mind (and just to save me re-doing what I've done once). > >Eventually we're expecting ANSI to slowly fade away as 16-bit Unicode >becomes the standard character set in use, which is why the design was >done this way. OK, well it might be nice to have some explanation like this on the website saying something like, use the unicode one is preferred unless you have a reason not to, since it was only at the point of downloading after I bought it that I discovered there was a choice, but couldn't find anything to describe the differences. -- Jeremy Knowles |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 1:01 PM | Permanent Link |
"Jeremy Knowles" | Roy Lambert wrote:
>Jeremy > > >The only way I can think of is to use the ansi version of EDBManager to >reverse engineer the database with data, then use the unicode version of >EDBManager to create the database from the script - I haven't tried it but >hopefully it would work. OK, thanks, I'll try that (when I've gone back to unicode, I had to revert back so I could do a demo of something I'd started). -- Jeremy Knowles |
Mon, Oct 6 2008 1:33 PM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | Tim
>Eventually we're expecting ANSI to slowly fade away as 16-bit Unicode >becomes the standard character set in use, which is why the design was done >this way. Even I do, but my definition of slowly may not include my lifetime. I wonder how much COBOL is still out there Roy Lambert |
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