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Thread Look and feel of new EWB layout
Tue, Apr 7 2015 7:54 AMPermanent Link

Mike

When comparing the old look and feel (http://www.elevatesoft.com:8080/datasetclient/datasetclient.html) with new (http://www.elevatesoft.com:8081/formsubmit/formsubmit.html) the last one feels like old fashion.

Is this for a reason? I think new customers prefer the old look and feel.

Does EWB 2.0 also have similar themes as EWB 1.0?
Tue, Apr 7 2015 10:03 AMPermanent Link

Matthew Jones

Mike wrote:

> When comparing the old look and feel
> (http://www.elevatesoft.com:8080/datasetclient/datasetclient.html)
> with new (http://www.elevatesoft.com:8081/formsubmit/formsubmit.html)
> the last one feels like old fashion.
>
> Is this for a reason? I think new customers prefer the old look and
> feel.
>
> Does EWB 2.0 also have similar themes as EWB 1.0?

I can't speak for Tim, but the new way will allow us to "skin" our
applications much more easily I think, and more flexibly too. Tim's
default skin shows off the capabilities, but you can just go mad making
your own. I aim to reproduce my skin style soon, now that the
underlying code is settled.
Tue, Apr 7 2015 10:13 AMPermanent Link

Mike

Hi Matthew,

That sounds good however I think for customers (especially new ones) it would be better to have examples which show the graphic possibilities better.

"Matthew Jones" wrote:

I can't speak for Tim, but the new way will allow us to "skin" our
applications much more easily I think, and more flexibly too. Tim's
default skin shows off the capabilities, but you can just go mad making
your own. I aim to reproduce my skin style soon, now that the
underlying code is settled.
Tue, Apr 7 2015 10:23 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Mike,

I know what you mean. For me as well the default controls and fonts are
too big.
Actually it's quite easy to create a new skin. In EWB1 you had to create
a lot of graphics to create a theme, that's different and much easier in
EWB2.

For each control there is an interface which you can change and thus
replace the default interface or copy it to a different path.
EWB2 allows you to compile the library using different search paths - so
you can use as many skins as you like. (Have a look at the "Desktop
Colour"-thread in this ng. Tim explains in detail how that works.)

Attached a screenshot of a modified TButton interface.

Uli





Attachments: Clip2.png
Tue, Apr 7 2015 10:42 AMPermanent Link

Raul

Globestar Systems

Team Elevate Team Elevate

On 4/7/2015 10:13 AM, Mike wrote:
> That sounds good however I think for customers (especially new ones) it would be better to have examples which show the graphic possibilities better.

I think this good feedback for Tim.

He's currently working away to get the release out so i doubt this will
happen for april. However based on his posts he plans to release regular
updates after (now quite easy with v2) and this could be one of those.

Raul
Tue, Apr 7 2015 12:26 PMPermanent Link

Matthew Jones

Matthew Jones wrote:

> default skin shows off the capabilities, but you can just go mad
> making your own. I aim to reproduce my skin style soon, now that the
> underlying code is settled.

So I stole a few minutes, as I wanted to see how easy it is to create a
new type of button. After stumbling a few times in my haste, it's easy.
First off, I copied all the existing "interfaces" directory to my new
theme directory, so I can't break the original. Then my first mistake
was to manually copy the webbtns.wbs file and trim it down to create
just a THotButton from the TButton. I should really have used the
Library menu to create a New component, which would have made it
easier! Anyway, components can't have a - character, but _ is fine.
When you open the interface file and save it to a new name, that's
good, but you also have to change the component name it is for up at
the top. I changed the standard button to my new style and didn't have
one for my new button until I fixed that.

The font sizes appear to be different somehow. The old 9 point text
appears to be about 12 point now, but this may be something to do with
aliasing, as it looks less sharp. I'll probably learn about that soon.
At the deault 20 pt it looks lovely, but less so at lower sizes.

But this is a heck of a lot easier than the old way, where I had to cut
bitmaps into slices. Plus I can make them any size I want vertically.
Looking good!
Tue, Apr 7 2015 11:56 PMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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<< I know what you mean. For me as well the default controls and fonts are too big.  >>

Yes I agree. It would be nice if the default sizes were a bit smaller.

= Steve
Thu, Apr 9 2015 12:19 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Email timyoung@elevatesoft.com

Mike,

<< When comparing the old look and feel
(http://www.elevatesoft.com:8080/datasetclient/datasetclient.html) with new
(http://www.elevatesoft.com:8081/formsubmit/formsubmit.html) the last one
feels like old fashion. >>

What feels old-fashioned ?  The font, the size of the fonts, the gradients,
etc. ?

Since I've had other complaints about the default font size, I've bumped it
down to 16px as the default.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 9 2015 3:11 PMPermanent Link

MarkB



What feels old-fashioned ?  The font, the size of the fonts, the gradients,
etc. ?


I've felt the same way.

Here is a demo of another Delphi based tool which has a nice look and feel as well as theming support.

http://prime.fmsoft.net/demo/ucdemo.dll
Thu, Apr 9 2015 3:19 PMPermanent Link

Mike

Hi Tim,

I think the font size and combobox component are too large and color settings of panels can be improved.

The example page on http://www.elevatesoft.com:8080/datasetclient/datasetclient.html has a much smoother look and feel which is nice to your eyes.

Hope this helps a bit. Anyway keep up the good work!
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