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Thread Look and feel of new EWB layout
Thu, Apr 9 2015 4:02 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Mark,

<< I've felt the same way. >>

The same way about what ?  What you quoted were my questions. Smile

<< Here is a demo of another Delphi based tool which has a nice look and
feel as well as theming support. >>

Yes, but good luck using that on a tablet.  The default look and feel with
EWB has to be usable on a variety of devices, including touch-only devices,
as well as be neutral enough to fit in with whatever colors someone comes up
with for their application.  It's not an easy proposition...

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 9 2015 4:06 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Mike,

<< I think the font size and combobox component are too large and color
settings of panels can be improved. >>

Okay, I've adjusted the font size down.  As for the colors of the panels,
you can change them to be whatever you want, either directly via a
Background property (TBasicPanel, TGroupPanel), or by modifying the
interface (TPanel).  We just did a neutral color as the default, in most
cases.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 9 2015 4:50 PMPermanent Link

MarkB

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:

Mark,

<< I've felt the same way. >>

The same way about what ?  What you quoted were my questions. Smile

<< Here is a demo of another Delphi based tool which has a nice look and
feel as well as theming support. >>

Yes, but good luck using that on a tablet.  The default look and feel with
EWB has to be usable on a variety of devices, including touch-only devices,
as well as be neutral enough to fit in with whatever colors someone comes up
with for their application.  It's not an easy proposition...

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com


So are you focusing on mobile devices only?  Most sites I've seen have desktop and mobile versions.  The link I posted is based on Sencha ExtJS which has desktop and mobile controls.
Thu, Apr 9 2015 4:53 PMPermanent Link

MarkB

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" wrote:

Mike,

<< I think the font size and combobox component are too large and color
settings of panels can be improved. >>

Okay, I've adjusted the font size down.  As for the colors of the panels,
you can change them to be whatever you want, either directly via a
Background property (TBasicPanel, TGroupPanel), or by modifying the
interface (TPanel).  We just did a neutral color as the default, in most
cases.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com


And BTW, what I was hoping to do was to do, what with the new component model, was come up with a bunch of controls that can compete with Sencha in both Desktop and Mobile
Thu, Apr 9 2015 5:21 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Mark,

<< So are you focusing on mobile devices only? >>

No, that's not what I said.  What I said was:

"The default look and feel with EWB has to be usable on a variety of
devices"

with "devices" here including PCs.

<< Most sites I've seen have desktop and mobile versions.  The link I posted
is based on Sencha ExtJS which has desktop and mobile controls. >>

Yes, but EWB 2's controls work out-of-the-box for both touch and
mouse/keyboard.  Remember, you can now buy a Windows PC that does all three
types of input.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Thu, Apr 9 2015 5:22 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Mark,

<< And BTW, what I was hoping to do was to do, what with the new component
model, was come up with a bunch of controls that can compete with Sencha in
both Desktop and Mobile >>

And you will be able to do so.  You can make the controls look and behave in
any way that you want.  That's the purpose of the interfaces, and the way
that the controls are built from the UI element building blocks at both
design-time and run-time.

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Sun, Apr 12 2015 6:35 AMPermanent Link

Uli Becker

Mark,

attached a screenshot with a modified "skin". Just to let you know: it
took me not more than 20 minutes to modify the interfaces with that look
& feel.

So don't worry about the default interfaces Smile

Uli



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Sun, Apr 12 2015 1:37 PMPermanent Link

MarkB

Uli Becker wrote:

Mark,

attached a screenshot with a modified "skin". Just to let you know: it
took me not more than 20 minutes to modify the interfaces with that look
& feel.

So don't worry about the default interfaces Smile

Uli


Very nice!  Thank you.
Mon, Apr 13 2015 10:42 AMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Uli,

<< attached a screenshot with a modified "skin". Just to let you know: it
took me not more than 20 minutes to modify the interfaces with that look &
feel. >>

As an aside: the next build (or the final release, whichever comes first)
has additional Font* options for the interface element ApplyProperties
property.  You can now specify that you want *just* the color or *just* the
style of the font applied in a given state.  This is useful for doing
buttons like you're doing if the "Normal" state of the font has a reversed
color (dark to light, or light to dark).

Nice look, btw.  You're much better at the UI design than me, that's for
sure. Smile

Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com
Tue, Apr 14 2015 3:17 AMPermanent Link

Steve Gill

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Hi Uli,

<< attached a screenshot with a modified "skin". Just to let you know: it
took me not more than 20 minutes to modify the interfaces with that look
& feel.

So don't worry about the default interfaces Smile>>

I must be doing something wrong. I copied the interface files to C:\Users\Steve\Documents\Elevate Web Builder 2\Interfaces.  Then I changed the background of TSurface and that seemed to work fine.  

However, when I changed the default font size to 16 for the TForm interface (Base and Client) it didn't make any different to TLabels I put on the form.  So I changed the font size of the TLabel interface to 16 and that still didn't make any difference.

I used the Build option under the Library menu after each change, and then recompiled the app, but the font size is still 20. Is there anything else I'm supposed to do?

Thanks.

= Steve
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