Is this project stalled? I/we have been supportive and waiting patiently for several years for so many things like HTML Editor, drag and drop, better grid, and lots more. We are now in 2022 and it seems the reality is they shall never be a part of this tool.

I don't know if things are stalled, but I haven't seen Tim's presence in the forums since Dec 3rd (Elevate DB) and he did not put up the Christmas banner on the website....

Has anyone heard from him?

Walter

I heard from Elevatesoft this month… about renewing my annual license.

But seriously, many developers take a big break over the holidays after putting in a lot of time all year.  I’m guilty of that too, and am only now starting to regain my code footing.

Many of the requests me make are hard projects (like the full-featured Editor), and take time… a lot of time to get them done right, particularly when doing a native-EWB implementation rather than borrowing from other projects.

Whether to stay native or import external JS is something one has to consider.   Tim tries like anything to keep pure native with no dependancies, while some others may be more receptive to a mixed environment if it buys them what they want faster.  There are benefits to both, which you prefer is a personal choice.   I sometimes use externals, but the Log4Jam fiasco shows what can happen when you rely on others….

Part of the challenge is that the Elevatesoft workforce doing the code is small in size, and with EWB’s server side Pascal, the workload has probably expanded a lot, at least for the last year or two.  I think there was some underestimation of how much work would be involved to achieve the great results that were done.

I’m glad EWB 3.01 R4 appears stable and has very few remaining gotchas.  There is a competing product which is known for many more features, but has a reputation for being less reliable.   Nothing stings more than worrying about the reliability of your code.   I can live without features built-in, and add them myself, but I’ve stopped upgrading Delphi versions since new releases have been only semi-reliable, and keep breaking old libraries I rely on.

So, I don’t have any answers, just a few opinions. I appreciate the quality, but yeah, we'd all like more quantity if possible.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

Trinione wrote:
>Is this project stalled? I/we have been supportive and waiting patiently for several years for so many things
>like HTML Editor, drag and drop, better grid, and lots more.

So, the powerful QuillJS rich editor and more flexible Grid (variable line heights, non-standard cell widths, embedded sub-grids, etc.), calendar and many other tools are available today in my Nice toolkit available at my website.

To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to as Drag and Drop.  I think GUI, but maybe you mean file drop.  If you can point to a Drag and Drop example site, I  could take a look.  Maybe it's something I could figure out, but I need exmples and leads.

What else is specifically needed.  I only use the client part of EWB, but I think that's where most of the interest lies.

The things I need which only Tim can do are:
 - add promises to EWB - needed for lots of JavaScript extensions
 - fix the dependancy on IE which will be removed from Windows come summer time
 - add better debugging support which is possible with the new browser

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

erickengelke wrote:

Trinione wrote:
>>Is this project stalled? I/we have been supportive and waiting patiently for several years for so many things
>>like HTML Editor, drag and drop, better grid, and lots more.

Drag and drop is certainly doable with EWB, I put up a sample at:
http://erickengelke.com/quilljs/dragdropsample.html

I guess I got busy.  But  I only handle images at this point, and if you click on the 'gallery' of images, it will blow up the image and show the filename too.  So you can do anything with the files once they are in the browser.

Now that the basic functionality is working, I need to do some work to simplify the process so that it's easy to use.

I'll mention on the components page when it's  available for others.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

erickengelke,
No, not the ability to drag and drop a file.

An example of the ability to do Drag and Drop is SortableJS, a JavaScript library for reorderable drag-and-drop list.

https://sortablejs.github.io/Sortable/


Regards.


erickengelke wrote:

Trinione wrote:
>>Is this project stalled? I/we have been supportive and waiting patiently for several years for so many things
>>like HTML Editor, drag and drop, better grid, and lots more.

Drag and drop is certainly doable with EWB, I put up a sample at:
http://erickengelke.com/quilljs/dragdropsample.html

I guess I got busy.  But  I only handle images at this point, and if you click on the 'gallery' of images, it will blow up the image and show the filename too.  So you can do anything with the files once they are in the browser.

Now that the basic functionality is working, I need to do some work to simplify the process so that it's easy to use.

I'll mention on the components page when it's  available for others.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

QuillJS is a great addition to your Component set! I'll also check the more flexible grid.


erickengelke wrote:

Trinione wrote:
>Is this project stalled? I/we have been supportive and waiting patiently for several years for so many things
>like HTML Editor, drag and drop, better grid, and lots more.

So, the powerful QuillJS rich editor and more flexible Grid (variable line heights, non-standard cell widths, embedded sub-grids, etc.), calendar and many other tools are available today in my Nice toolkit available at my website.

To be honest, I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to as Drag and Drop.  I think GUI, but maybe you mean file drop.  If you can point to a Drag and Drop example site, I  could take a look.  Maybe it's something I could figure out, but I need exmples and leads.

What else is specifically needed.  I only use the client part of EWB, but I think that's where most of the interest lies.

The things I need which only Tim can do are:
 - add promises to EWB - needed for lots of JavaScript extensions
 - fix the dependancy on IE which will be removed from Windows come summer time
 - add better debugging support which is possible with the new browser

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

Trinione wrote:

erickengelke,
>No, not the ability to drag and drop a file.

>An example of the ability to do Drag and Drop is SortableJS, a JavaScript library for reorderable drag-and-drop list.

>https://sortablejs.github.io/Sortable/

I've did get it working.  Unfortunately my web site appears to be done right now, can't publish new material.

I'll post in the components page when the demo and file downloads are available to my clients.

Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

erickengelke wrote:

Trinione wrote:

erickengelke,
>No, not the ability to drag and drop a file.

>An example of the ability to do Drag and Drop is SortableJS, a JavaScript library for reorderable drag-and-drop list.

>https://sortablejs.github.io/Sortable/

There's a demo of it with EWB at https://www.erickengelke.com/nice/samples.html


Erick
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com
EWB Programming Books and Component Library
http://www.erickengelke.com

erick,
I just checked out the sample. Great!

Shall download and test!

Thanks.


erickengelke wrote:

>> There's a demo of it with EWB at https://www.erickengelke.com/nice/samples.html