On 7/27/2016 11:40 AM, erickengelke wrote:
> If anyone has other suggestions please send them to me as I still have time to add things.

Erick,

Content looks great from TOC.

Websockets is another (short) topics that would be useful. Once Tim adds
it natively into EWB though the content would have to be changed.

Raul

<<  Quilljs.com looks interesting >>

Yes.Quilljs looks quite good. I was looking into this recently as well.

Trinione wrote:

<<  Quilljs.com looks interesting >>

... and then I found http://getcontenttools.com/.

I've added WebSockets, demo at:
 http://erickengelke.com/ewb/websockets.html

>Trinione wrote:
<<  Quilljs.com looks interesting >>

>Yes.Quilljs looks quite good. I was looking into this recently as well.

I've already implemented/documented with CK Editor.  Is there anything about Quilljs which makes it superior?

My CK Editor example is at http://erickengelke.com/ewb/richedit/rich.html
I think CK Editor offers a superset of functionality and is customizable and offers both
open source and paid solutions.  
 
Tables and a few other things don't work in my published example, but only because I didn't FTP up all the
many files in support subdirectories.

To answer a question from private Email, I did consider making a paid solution pack for EWB, but it struck
me that

1. Then people would have to upgrade every few releases, whereas a book is release-independant.  Software would probably cost you more money in the long run.

2. I would have to worry about the licensing of 3rd party components, whereas with a book you are responsible for your own situation.  Most of you are not selling your product to outside customers, so you usually employ open source components.

3. I am helping you know how to integrate 3rd party components, so you grow as a programmer.  I don't have an interest in keeping info from you.

4. I've owned portions of successful companies before, and there is overhead in handling sales, invoices, accounts receivable, export restrictions, international currencies, taxes, and all that stuff.  With a book I get a royalty cheque mailed 30 days later, they handle all the purchasing-related information - it lets me outsource all that effort on stuff I don't enjoy doing.

Erick

Trinione wrote:

Trinione wrote:

<<  Quilljs.com looks interesting >>

>... and then I found http://getcontenttools.com/.

I tried it.  I think it appeals to developers more than end users.  If you put a single button on a page you'll get support Email, so this worries me.

E

erickengelke wrote:

<< If anyone has other suggestions please send them to me as I still have time to add things. >>

I may be not seeing it in the Table of Contents, what about Components Building? I recall that being quite a trying experience for me a few months ago.

Also, is there anything on using the Icon Library?

Trinione wrote:

erickengelke wrote:

<< If anyone has other suggestions please send them to me as I still have time to add things. >>

>I may be not seeing it in the Table of Contents, what about Components Building? I recall that being quite a
>trying experience for me a few months ago.

True, I did not include components building, but I did do components extending and subclassing.  For example TColorButton which lets you specify a background colour,TColorGrid which lets you specify foreground colour, and RichEdit all with about a page of code.

Adding a whole new component is a lot of work and not a big payoff.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's more useful for Elevate or a third party to ship  controls because they have economies of scale.  But for a mere developer, the extra hundred lines of code and hours of debugging time just to have a drag and drop interface seem excessive.

If there is interest, it could make it into a 3rd edition of the book.

> Also, is there anything on using the Icon Library?

No, I hadn't thought of that.  Good point.

Erick

erickengelke wrote:

<< Adding a whole new component is a lot of work and not a big payoff.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's more useful for Elevate or a third party to ship  controls because they have economies of scale.  But for a mere developer, the extra hundred lines of code and hours of debugging time just to have a drag and drop interface seem excessive.>>


Understood. However, I am not talking about from scratch/new component. For example, I created a Custom TButtonCombobox component which adds a DataColumm  property for the displayed value, and DataColumnID for the unique ID field.

It took me a while and some exchanges with Tim to understand the basis of creating a custom component.

Just an idea as you asked for suggestions.

Here is the link:
http://www.elevatesoft.com/forums?action=view&category=ewb&id=ewb_binaries&msg=44&page=1

Trinione wrote:

>t took me a while and some exchanges with Tim to understand the basis of creating a custom component.

>Just an idea as you asked for suggestions.

It's a good idea. I've downloaded the line.  It won;t make it into this edition.

>http://www.elevatesoft.com/forums?action=view&category=ewb&id=ewb_binaries&msg=44&page=1

Hi Erick

I look forward to purchase the 2nd edition of your book. It looks you are covering a wide range of topics.

I am from a delphi desktop background so this web stuff is all new for me and is taking time to fully understand and get to grips with.

So examples that would greatly help *everyone* that is new to EWB:

1. Email examples with attachments facility etc

2. Printing examples  from a database data record / screen to pdf / html etc

3. Export functions of data to excel / word /  txt etc.

4. Electronic payment processing examples to the main players: eg Paypal, Apple Pay, Worldpay etc...

5. Social Media examples eg FaceBook , Twitter etc.

6. Security examples eg.  encryption and security of data from user to client etc..

Sorry if you have already covered these in any way.

and thank you for your efforts.

Regards

Kamran