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Has The Lack Of Functions Been A Setback? |
Tue, Sep 24 2013 5:40 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | Hi Frederick,
<< Let's say that when I click a button at the EWB front-end and I want to go through a large number of database records to perform updates. I would need to pass the request to a script in the back-end to perform the work. I would not be able to write this script in EWB because EWB (which outputs JS code) is not meant for back-end data processing. A possible language to use is PHP. Is the above correct? >> Yep, PHP is what I use for the backend and all the heavy lifting. I'm currently using MySQL for the database but I'm looking forward to using EDB when Tim has the PHP bits finished. |
Tue, Sep 24 2013 9:10 PM | Permanent Link |
Frederick Chin | Hi Steve,
/* Yep, PHP is what I use for the backend and all the heavy lifting. I'm currently using MySQL for the database but I'm looking forward to using EDB when Tim has the PHP bits finished. */ Is calling PHP scripts from EWB easy to do? What is the advantage of using EDB over MySQL in both local and public hosted web sites? Frederick |
Tue, Sep 24 2013 10:00 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | On 9/24/2013 9:10 PM, Frederick Chin wrote:
> > Is calling PHP scripts from EWB easy to do? What is the advantage of using EDB over MySQL in both local and public hosted web sites? Yes - these are simply web requests (equivalent to navigating to a URL in browser - except you do this in code). More on web requests: http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=topics&id=ewb1§ion=using_server_requests If you want to use EWB TDataset functionality then you actually need to implement EWB dataset handling on PHP side. Nice thing here is that EWB talks to web server over HTTP and payload is pure JSON. Your web server then can use any database back end. More info here: http://www.elevatesoft.com/manual?action=topics&id=ewb1§ion=using_datasets I think for most people the main value of EDB would be simply to stick with one DB technology for their desktop and web apps. Raul |
Wed, Sep 25 2013 4:38 AM | Permanent Link |
Frederick Chin | Raul wrote:
/* Yes - these are simply web requests (equivalent to navigating to a URL in browser - except you do this in code). */ Good, I will try to create a PHP script to return the count of records and have EWB call it and display the result. /* I think for most people the main value of EDB would be simply to stick with one DB technology for their desktop and web apps. */ Will EDB's database be able to reside on any public hosted web server and an EWB app can call a PHP script to process the records within the database? I believe that it is not possible for DBISAM tables. Frederick |
Wed, Sep 25 2013 5:39 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | << Is calling PHP scripts from EWB easy to do? >>
Yes, once you get the hang of it. << What is the advantage of using EDB over MySQL in both local and public hosted web sites? >> I use Linux web servers so that's the only reason I use MySQL. |
Wed, Sep 25 2013 9:22 PM | Permanent Link |
Frederick Chin | Steve Gill wrote:
/* I use Linux web servers so that's the only reason I use MySQL. */ My reason for wanting to use MySQL as far as possible is because it can be used with practically all web servers. DBISAM (and EDB?) unfortunately are limited to Windows based servers with hosting limitations on public web sites. Frederick |
Thu, Sep 26 2013 3:31 PM | Permanent Link |
Walter Matte Tactical Business Corporation | I have never had any affection of MySQL.. I have used it when clients had data in it... but I would not select it for development... I can relate to this: http://grimoire.ca/mysql/choose-something-else Walter |
Thu, Sep 26 2013 5:28 PM | Permanent Link |
Steve Gill | << I can relate to this: http://grimoire.ca/mysql/choose-something-else >>
And I've seen similar articles about Delphi in the past. |
Mon, Sep 30 2013 3:54 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Frederick,
<< I would not be able to write this script in EWB because EWB (which outputs JS code) is not meant for back-end data processing. A possible language to use is PHP. Is the above correct? >> Correct. Or you could just use Delphi code with the EWB Web Server (custom modules). This is especially nice if the code is already in Delphi - you simply only need to change around how the parameters come in and the results go out. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Mon, Sep 30 2013 3:58 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Frederick,
<< Would the above work if the EWB app is hosted in an Apache web server running in Linux with MySQL as the database? Although I would love to work with DBISAM, I want to stick with just one database for EWB apps whether for locally or publicly hosted environments. >> ElevateDB will be able to do Linux pretty soon, which means that you'll soon have the option of: 1) PHP with ElevateDB PHP Extension using the common dataset manager that I've written for PHP. 2) PHP with MySQL, as soon as I'm done implementing the common dataset class in PHP for MySQL, which shouldn't be much longer after the initial release of 1). This will allow you to serve up datasets pretty easily on Linux, provided that you're using ElevateDB or MySQL. DBISAM is going to be something that I'm going to have to look at when I have more free time, since it's starting to show its age and I'm not sure if I want to dedicate a lot of resources for this type of thing when ElevateDB does all of it and more. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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