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Thread Was Defined.net Hacked???
Wed, Apr 9 2008 9:33 PMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
My site on Defined.net, where I host a DBISAM server, appears to have been
hacked. I am assuming everyone on the same physical server is having the
same issue.
http://remwin.com

I sent emails to them, but have not had any response.

I reloaded my site and the hacked page persists. My ASPX pages don't work at
all.

Anyone else using Defined.net having problems? Their main web page still
seems fine.

-Johnnie


Thu, Apr 10 2008 3:18 AMPermanent Link

"Jerry Clancy"
I moved my hosting site off their boxes two weeks ago. Our ISAPI apps that
would work on servers here wouldn't there and their tech support is
non-responsive, very literallly non-existent. No phone availability for any
reason. BlueHill aka 4Domains bought out defined.net several years ago and,
IMHO, has turned the site into a GoDaddy wanna-be. Their mail server
(8.7.20.128) is now apparently full of spammers (and who knows what else) to
the extent that I couldn't get email to any of our Comcast subscribers. The
site is on their blocked list.

My advice is to run from them as fast as you can.

Jerry

"Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:205F0C97-F5F3-44AC-A27D-9B0BEB1ADC63@news.elevatesoft.com...
> My site on Defined.net, where I host a DBISAM server, appears to have been
> hacked. I am assuming everyone on the same physical server is having the
> same issue.
> http://remwin.com
>
> I sent emails to them, but have not had any response.
>
> I reloaded my site and the hacked page persists. My ASPX pages don't work
> at all.
>
> Anyone else using Defined.net having problems? Their main web page still
> seems fine.
>
> -Johnnie
>
>
>

Thu, Apr 10 2008 10:51 AMPermanent Link

"Johnnie Norsworthy"
I was able to get to a human today, by ACCIDENTALLY sending a billing change
request.

Yes, this is ridiculous. I saw your post to the newsgroups, which are
another black hole of support these days. Not very happy right now.

It was confirmed by billing though, that the server was hacked.

I need ASP.NET 2.0, DBISAM (very low volume) and some real support from a
provider - preferably in the U.S.

Any suggestions?!

-Johnnie


"Jerry Clancy" <jclancy@billtrak.com> wrote in message
news:D633C48D-3B20-45AB-A01C-206466E5BC32@news.elevatesoft.com...
>I moved my hosting site off their boxes two weeks ago. Our ISAPI apps that
>would work on servers here wouldn't there and their tech support is
>non-responsive, very literallly non-existent. No phone availability for any
>reason. BlueHill aka 4Domains bought out defined.net several years ago and,
>IMHO, has turned the site into a GoDaddy wanna-be. Their mail server
>(8.7.20.128) is now apparently full of spammers (and who knows what else)
>to the extent that I couldn't get email to any of our Comcast subscribers.
>The site is on their blocked list.
>
> My advice is to run from them as fast as you can.
>
> Jerry
>
> "Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:205F0C97-F5F3-44AC-A27D-9B0BEB1ADC63@news.elevatesoft.com...
>> My site on Defined.net, where I host a DBISAM server, appears to have
>> been hacked. I am assuming everyone on the same physical server is having
>> the same issue.
>> http://remwin.com
>>
>> I sent emails to them, but have not had any response.
>>
>> I reloaded my site and the hacked page persists. My ASPX pages don't work
>> at all.
>>
>> Anyone else using Defined.net having problems? Their main web page still
>> seems fine.
>>
>> -Johnnie
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thu, Apr 10 2008 8:33 PMPermanent Link

Lance Rasmussen

Jazzie Software

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Team Elevate Team Elevate

I've always had solid service and support from Verio.  They are not
necessarily targeting the $1.95 a month web hosting, though.

Lance


"Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:CF08A4B2-B9FC-46EC-8BE1-41B25D3E2F43@news.elevatesoft.com...
>I was able to get to a human today, by ACCIDENTALLY sending a billing
>change request.
>
> Yes, this is ridiculous. I saw your post to the newsgroups, which are
> another black hole of support these days. Not very happy right now.
>
> It was confirmed by billing though, that the server was hacked.
>
> I need ASP.NET 2.0, DBISAM (very low volume) and some real support from a
> provider - preferably in the U.S.
>
> Any suggestions?!
>
> -Johnnie
>
>
> "Jerry Clancy" <jclancy@billtrak.com> wrote in message
> news:D633C48D-3B20-45AB-A01C-206466E5BC32@news.elevatesoft.com...
>>I moved my hosting site off their boxes two weeks ago. Our ISAPI apps that
>>would work on servers here wouldn't there and their tech support is
>>non-responsive, very literallly non-existent. No phone availability for
>>any reason. BlueHill aka 4Domains bought out defined.net several years ago
>>and, IMHO, has turned the site into a GoDaddy wanna-be. Their mail server
>>(8.7.20.128) is now apparently full of spammers (and who knows what else)
>>to the extent that I couldn't get email to any of our Comcast subscribers.
>>The site is on their blocked list.
>>
>> My advice is to run from them as fast as you can.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> "Johnnie Norsworthy" <jln206@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:205F0C97-F5F3-44AC-A27D-9B0BEB1ADC63@news.elevatesoft.com...
>>> My site on Defined.net, where I host a DBISAM server, appears to have
>>> been hacked. I am assuming everyone on the same physical server is
>>> having the same issue.
>>> http://remwin.com
>>>
>>> I sent emails to them, but have not had any response.
>>>
>>> I reloaded my site and the hacked page persists. My ASPX pages don't
>>> work at all.
>>>
>>> Anyone else using Defined.net having problems? Their main web page still
>>> seems fine.
>>>
>>> -Johnnie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Fri, Apr 11 2008 5:04 AMPermanent Link

"Trevor Davis"
> I've always had solid service and support from Verio.  They are not
> necessarily targeting the $1.95 a month web hosting, though.

Lance, I wouldn't recommend Verio. We've had very bad experiences with them.

Maybe with a dedicated server they are OK, but with the $30/month shared
server we have our site is sometimes extremely slow or unavailable (404). We
report the problem, they reboot the server and it's fixed until the next time.
Or they say they can't find anything wrong. This past couple of months seem to
be relatively OK, so moving to another company is currently low on the list of
priorities. But I would not recommend them.

Also we had an issue with a credit card: we changed the billing to be on a
different credit card. However their site didn't recognise the change, and
when the original card failed they cut off our service. Our site was 404 which
we discovered right after 5pm their time or whatever and couldn't be
reinstated until 6am or so the following day their time. Tech support hadn't
the authority to even temporarily fix it. So customers couldn't reach our
site, nor could search engines. I had to stay up all night so as to be able to
contact them at 4 am my time to fix it. Were they apologetic in the
slightest.. maybe even offer a month or so of service for free to make up for
their mistake... absolutely not!

--
Trevor Davis
Davis Business Systems Ltd.
www.dbsonline.com
BS/1 Accounting, Time Billing, Distribution, and Manufacturing Software
Delphi Source Code (royalty-free) for DBISAM

Wed, Apr 16 2008 3:31 AMPermanent Link

Lance Rasmussen

Jazzie Software

Avatar

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Verio has a few different divisions, so it could be one of their inherited
low end ones.

I use (and resell, though wasn't the intention of my post) their higher end
virtual private servers.  It is more expensive, but I have a lot more power
and performance with it.

I've not had any billing issues with them at all.

I've been with Verio for over 10 years now.  They've had little issues here
and there, but overall has been out of sight, out of mind for good service.



"Trevor Davis" <info@NOSPAMdbsonline.com> wrote in message
news:8E2D4622-B19A-4462-80D6-6EB22DCD0086@news.elevatesoft.com...
>> I've always had solid service and support from Verio.  They are not
>> necessarily targeting the $1.95 a month web hosting, though.
>
> Lance, I wouldn't recommend Verio. We've had very bad experiences with
> them.
>
> Maybe with a dedicated server they are OK, but with the $30/month shared
> server we have our site is sometimes extremely slow or unavailable (404).
> We report the problem, they reboot the server and it's fixed until the
> next time. Or they say they can't find anything wrong. This past couple of
> months seem to be relatively OK, so moving to another company is currently
> low on the list of priorities. But I would not recommend them.
>
> Also we had an issue with a credit card: we changed the billing to be on a
> different credit card. However their site didn't recognise the change, and
> when the original card failed they cut off our service. Our site was 404
> which we discovered right after 5pm their time or whatever and couldn't be
> reinstated until 6am or so the following day their time. Tech support
> hadn't the authority to even temporarily fix it. So customers couldn't
> reach our site, nor could search engines. I had to stay up all night so as
> to be able to contact them at 4 am my time to fix it. Were they apologetic
> in the slightest.. maybe even offer a month or so of service for free to
> make up for their mistake... absolutely not!
>
> --
> Trevor Davis
> Davis Business Systems Ltd.
> www.dbsonline.com
> BS/1 Accounting, Time Billing, Distribution, and Manufacturing Software
> Delphi Source Code (royalty-free) for DBISAM
>
>
Wed, May 7 2008 8:02 AMPermanent Link

"Dominique Willems"
Sorry I saw this message so late. YES, it has been totally hacked, and
YES, they are being totally silent about it, as they are always totally
silent about anything they do. After pressing a lot, and swallowing
insults like I ought to switch to .NET and SQLServer, instead of using
DBISAM, they let me know they were upgrading their stuff now to allow
more security.

I should have switched away from them years ago, but have been a tad
paralyzed by laziness and the prospects of setting it up on a new
server, although for the same price I get a dedicated server at the
competition, I remained there...



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Thu, May 8 2008 11:09 AMPermanent Link

"Ivan Sine"
I was late on this too. My site was also hacked. I'd been pondering a switch
for a couple years. In the process of switching now, as Defined's support
has hit rock bottom. I went with www.bottomlinecom.net I now have a VPS
server, that I can RDP to and have FULL control. With the VPS, you can
install any server or app you want, Bottomline has been great to work with.
So I now have my DBISAM 4 server and several Intraweb applications running
as Windows Services. My DB server was lucky to stay up on Defined for 3 or 4
days. On the new server it's been up since installation 4 weeks, 3
days.......and counting.
I'm even installing my own choice of mail server, that's not a 5 version old
spam magnet.

Ivan
Thu, May 8 2008 12:30 PMPermanent Link

"Jerry Clancy"
I'm amazed that Defined has any customers left. Their total lack of support
was absolutely stunning, as was the inability to get anyone on the line for
any reason, even cancelling.

Does bottomlinecom support ISAPIs? I didn't see it on their feature list.

Jerry

"Ivan Sine" <ivan@nospamorhamag2networks.com> wrote in message
news:0994E018-9D3B-42CB-B924-0CFFBF786B96@news.elevatesoft.com...
>I was late on this too. My site was also hacked. I'd been pondering a
>switch for a couple years. In the process of switching now, as Defined's
>support has hit rock bottom. I went with www.bottomlinecom.net I now have a
>VPS server, that I can RDP to and have FULL control. With the VPS, you can
>install any server or app you want, Bottomline has been great to work with.
>So I now have my DBISAM 4 server and several Intraweb applications running
>as Windows Services. My DB server was lucky to stay up on Defined for 3 or
>4 days. On the new server it's been up since installation 4 weeks, 3
>days.......and counting.
> I'm even installing my own choice of mail server, that's not a 5 version
> old spam magnet.
>
> Ivan

Thu, May 8 2008 1:10 PMPermanent Link

"Dominique Willems"
Jerry Clancy wrote:
> Does bottomlinecom support ISAPIs? I didn't see it on their feature
> list.

Can't find anything about dedicated either.

These are the guys I have been contemplating for years now, but have
been too lazy to switch to:
http://tinyurl.com/5r9nx8

You have your own server and can do absolutely anything you want with
it. IIS is installed and you can run all the ISAPIs you like.

Don't know whether the price is competitive...


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