I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or
CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from Delphi 6
SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio  also known as "Delphi 2007 for Win32".

Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005,
BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack
installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb RAM,
pentium DUAL, HD Sata).

Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what
we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very hard
to find, slow search and bla bla bla

Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I don´t think so.

New features ? I can´t see nothing absolutelety new.

Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it  time to code .NET ?

Eduardo

Jose,
 See my experience below...
Henri

"Jose Eduardo Helminsky" <contato@hpro.com.br> schreef in bericht
news:62256808-526C-4552-B66C-A2AAAE1A8801@news.elevatesoft.com...
>I do not know the future for a company called Borland or Inprise or
>CodeGear. I started with Delphi at version 1 and I am moving from Delphi 6
>SP2 to CodeGear Radio Studio  also known as "Delphi 2007 for Win32".

I also moved from Delphi 6 (under winXP) to Delphi 2007 (under Vista). No
problems here

>
> Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005,
> BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack
> installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb
> RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata).

I have also a Dell with the same specs, again no problems

>
> Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what
> we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very
> hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla

Delphi 2007 Help, yes still terrible, I for one miss the examples and simple
explenation of the properties and methods of the (new visual) VCL/RTL
library.

>
> Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I don´t think so.
>
> New features ? I can´t see nothing absolutelety new.

Only some vista/xp gui components, but i agee with you that it is not
spectacular

>
> Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it  time to code .NET ?

Mayby Chrome has a future?
It looks good
Does anyone out here has experiance with Chrome?

>
> Eduardo
>
>

Eduardo,

<< Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005,
BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack
installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb RAM,
pentium DUAL, HD Sata). >>

I actually like D2007.  What bugs are you running into ?  We compile the EDB
Manager and Server that we ship with D2007, so it seems pretty stable to us.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Hi,

> Things are become worst and worst. Delphi 7 (ok), but Delphi 8, BDS 2005,
> BDS 2006 and now this monster called Delphi 2007. Last service pack
> installed, a lot of bugs, very fat application (I am on a Dell with 2Gb
> RAM, pentium DUAL, HD Sata).

No problem here. In fact, I find D2007 the best ever - been using Delphi
since v1. It is solid, fast and I like the IDE a whole lot better than the
D7 one, yes, it does take some time to get used to, but it is really better.

> Help ? Where ? What ? There a *lot* of garbage, a lot of concepts but what
> we need (and get) on Delphi 7 and lower versions, forget it. It is very
> hard to find, slow search and bla bla bla

Help is quite bad. That's why I still have the D7 help files

> Am I wrong ? Is it my first impression ? I don´t think so.

In my view, you're wrong. Please notice that bad 3rd party components and
add-ins can make it unstable.

> New features ? I can´t see nothing absolutelety new.

Not as fas as components go, but the IDE is way better and the compiler
itself is also somewhat better.

> Maybe Lazarus ? Or change to Visual Studio ? Or is it  time to code .NET ?

No comment. Says it all, don't you think

Fons

D2007 has been pretty solid.  I think it meets the expectation of what the
gang at Codegear were trying to do... make it a new favorite to replace D7.

Performance is pretty good (especially compared to D2005).

Help is not the same, but face it... we have to move on and MSHelp2 is where
they've gone.  So that's probably the worse thing I hate.  However their doc
team has been doing better in filling in the gaps.  And there were some very
good reasons why the help was in bad shape, when Codegear explained them.

FWIW..

   D2007 was the first version to entice me away from D7.
   I have now moved everything to D2007 and removed D7.

Regards,

Ian

--

Jose


I went from D6 to D2006 the OLH stinks, yet another wonderful product from M$ but apart from that its pretty good. However, reading the CodeGear ngs user experience varies wildy, and its not just down to 3rd party stuff.

There seems to be no common theme some people just suffer whilst the rest are fine.

It does take time to get used to the new IDE layout but I've managed it and now like it, apart from when it starts being "helpful".

One thing I found helped tremendously was to get rid of starteam, together, templates etc ie a lot of the things that were meant to make it so much better.

Roy Lambert

I'm also using D2007 for several months
Yes is stable and has several nice addons but, (and from my point of view
it's a big but),
the applications are not fasters compare to application created with D7 or
even previous version.

Sorin

Sorin,

<< it's a big but:... the applications are not faster compared to
application created with D7 or even previous version >>

Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile,
or faster when run as an application?

Thanks,
Dan

Mostly faster to run an application
Sorin

>
> Can you say a bit more? Faster to develop, faster to compile,
> or faster when run as an application?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>