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Thread Unicode database support in Tiburon for Delphi and C++
Thu, Jul 17 2008 2:18 PMPermanent Link

"Stuart Kelly"
CodeGear have started postining infomation about Tiburon.

Here is a post on Unicode database support in Tiburon for Delphi and
C++ by David I

http://blogs.codegear.com/davidi/2008/07/15/38895

Enjoy, Stuart
Thu, Jul 17 2008 3:14 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Stuart,

<< CodeGear have started postining infomation about Tiburon.

Here is a post on Unicode database support in Tiburon for Delphi and C++ by
David I

http://blogs.codegear.com/davidi/2008/07/15/38895 >>

Thanks for the link.  David I gave a rundown on Tiburon last night at the
Toronto Delphi User Group Meeting (TDUG).  Our customer Bruce McGee was kind
enough to allow me to attend.  Tiburon looks to be a nice step forward.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Thu, Jul 17 2008 3:32 PMPermanent Link

"Stuart Kelly"

>
> Thanks for the link.  David I gave a rundown on Tiburon last night at
> the Toronto Delphi User Group Meeting (TDUG).  Our customer Bruce
> McGee was kind enough to allow me to attend.  

Are you in the picture on his blog?
http://blogs.codegear.com/ao/2008/07/16/38939

>
> Tiburon looks to be a nice step forward.
>
Yeah looks like there will be some really usefull features.


One question you probably cannot answer yet, will the Tiburon version
of ElevateDB be unicode only?

Cheers, Stu
Thu, Jul 17 2008 4:03 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Stuart,

<< Are you in the picture on his blog?
http://blogs.codegear.com/ao/2008/07/16/38939 >>

Yep, I'm in the very back with my arms folded. Smiley

<< Yeah looks like there will be some really usefull features. >>

It's an important step.  David I himself said that they are really committed
to making up for the lack of attention that the product has suffered from
during the latter Borland years.  I think we could see a mini-revival of
Delphi in the next few years.  Native 64-bit code with full Unicode support
and progressive features like generics could be a compelling compiler
product.  Add some more platforms (my opinion, not CodeGear's words), and
you've got a *very* compelling compiler product.  I'm pretty excited for the
first time in a while.

<< One question you probably cannot answer yet, will the Tiburon version of
ElevateDB be unicode only? >>

No, we can do both.  That's the beauty of the design of ElevateDB - it can
be compiled for Unicode or ANSI strings with one IFDEF - EDB_UNICODE.
Besides, it still has to support older Delphi versions that use only ANSI
strings (WideStrings may have been present, but there were a lot of holes),
such as D5-D7.

The cool thing will be being able to make the EDB Manager 100% Unicode from
the controls down to the database engine with a few simple changes and
recompile.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Fri, Jul 18 2008 6:03 AMPermanent Link

"Dominique Willems"
Tim Young [Elevate Software] wrote:
> No, we can do both.  That's the beauty of the design of ElevateDB -
> it can be compiled for Unicode or ANSI strings with one IFDEF -
> EDB_UNICODE. Besides, it still has to support older Delphi versions
> that use only ANSI strings (WideStrings may have been present, but
> there were a lot of holes), such as D5-D7.

Will there be a conversion tool to convert old tables containing ASCII
string fields to Unicode string fields?

This release just might convince me to migrate from my D5/DBISAM 3.30
combo to a D2008/ElevateDB combo. Smile

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Fri, Jul 18 2008 12:27 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

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Dominique,

<< Will there be a conversion tool to convert old tables containing ASCII
string fields to Unicode string fields? >>

We already have migrators available for that.  The only thing that is
currently outstanding with the migrators is specific code-page conversions
during the migration.

<< This release just might convince me to migrate from my D5/DBISAM 3.30
combo to a D2008/ElevateDB combo.  >>

And that's *always* a good thing. Smiley

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
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Tue, Jul 22 2008 4:57 AMPermanent Link

Dan Rootham
Dominique,

<< The only thing that is currently outstanding with the migrators
is specific code-page conversions during the migration. >>

Until the EDB migrators also do the codepage conversion (e.g. from Win1251 Cyrillic to
Unicode),
you can work around the problem quite easily after migrating. Just use the Windows API
MultiByteToWideChar. See this thread in the ElevateDB General newsgroup:

http://www.elevatesoft.com/newsgrp?action=searchopenmsg&group=16&msg=4962&keywords=codepage*#msg4962

Regards,
Dan Rootham
[Team Elevate]
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