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Vista deletes? hides? dat files |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 6:05 AM | Permanent Link |
thomas | Hello.
Last month i loose two times the dat files from my application! Dbisam version is 4.25 Build 3 Delphi version is 7 The application is installed on two different notebooks with Vista. One of them is running from a USB connected hard disk drive and the other from the HDD inside the computer. The customer said that the program worked as usual and suddenly appear the message 11010 table or backup file “file name” does not exists. The program is running for about four years now from a USB connected hard disk drive under windows XP without problem like this. I check the disk for the files with undeleted programs but I found nothing. Any idea? |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 10:59 AM | Permanent Link |
Sean McCall | The tables are not stored anywhere under the Program Files folder are
they? That shouldn't be done anymore under Vista. Otherwise if it happened on two different machines I would suspect anti-virus software. Is it just the .DAT missing and .IDX still is there? thomas wrote: > Hello. > > Last month i loose two times the dat files from my application! > > Dbisam version is 4.25 Build 3 > Delphi version is 7 > > The application is installed on two different notebooks with Vista. One of them is running > from a USB connected hard disk drive and the other from the HDD inside the computer. > > The customer said that the program worked as usual and suddenly appear the message 11010 > table or backup file “file name” does not exists. > > The program is running for about four years now from a USB connected hard disk drive > under windows XP without problem like this. > > I check the disk for the files with undeleted programs but I found nothing. Any idea? > > > > > > |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 12:28 PM | Permanent Link |
"Chris Thornton" | "Sean McCall" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
news:EA0B3A80-F114-459C-8940- > The tables are not stored anywhere under the Program Files folder are > they? That shouldn't be done anymore under Vista. Right - for those who are curious, I've written a bit about this here: http://www.clipboardextender.com/off-topic/vista-program-files-hide-and-seek Otherwise, I agree, it sounds like an antivirus or antispyware problem. Let's cross our fingers that it isn't a repeat of the "deleting empty .blb files" problem. |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 2:05 PM | Permanent Link |
Roy Lambert NLH Associates Team Elevate | I've just created a shortcut to the virtualstore on my desktop so I can check every now and then what Vista's doing behind my back
Roy Lambert |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 3:47 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Thomas,
<< I check the disk for the files with undeleted programs but I found nothing. Any idea? >> We are not aware of any applications such as anti-spyware, etc. that delete ..dat files unless they are stored in the temporary files directory (such as temporary tables used by query result sets). See here for more information: http://www.elevatesoft.com/bulletin_14.htm However, just to be sure - is the client running any anti-virus or anti-spyware software ? It may be that the software thinks that the USB stick is trying to infect the machine with a virus. I know - dumb, but that's what we've come to expect from the Symantecs of this world. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Thu, Apr 17 2008 6:56 PM | Permanent Link |
"Gregory Sebastian" | > One of them is running
> from a USB connected hard disk drive How does your program obtain the path to the database ? Could it be that Windows assigned a different drive letter to the USB device this time. Meaning that it used to be "E" drive but this time when plugged in, it was assigned "F" by Windows. Hence the program could not find the db at the usual Drive E . Regards Gregory Sebastian |
Fri, Apr 18 2008 12:56 AM | Permanent Link |
thomas | The two notebooks do not have any kind of antivirus software because they contain valuable
data for the company, and they never connected to internet with these. • the program runs from a usb HDD • Worked fine on XP pc • it is not inside “program files” folder • no antivirus program installed • not remember if idx files missing too, probably yes. • Same problem on two different pc’s |
Fri, Apr 18 2008 6:51 AM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Thomas,
<< • the program runs from a usb HDD • Worked fine on XP pc • it is not inside “program files” folder • no antivirus program installed • not remember if idx files missing too, probably yes. • Same problem on two different pc’s >> Just to verify - you're sure that the USB hard drive is the one experiencing the issue ? And the .dat files are actually gone when you try to verify their existence ? Or is the application just saying that it can't find them, but they're actually still present on the USB HD ? -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
Fri, Apr 18 2008 1:38 PM | Permanent Link |
Jan Ferguson Data Software Solutions, Inc. Team Elevate | You might be interested in this article from the Register. I don't know
if it relates to your issues. Windows Vista update 'kills' USB devices By Kelly Fiveash ? More by this author 16 Apr 2008 16:12 As SP1 automatic download goes MIA Updated Microsoft has admitted it is investigating reports that a recent Windows Vista security update causes havoc with some USB devices, but the software giant is yet to provide a fix for the cock-up. The Windows Vista SP1 pre-requisite KB938371 update was released last week, but some unfortunate Vista customers have claimed that their USB mice and keyboards among other devices refuse to work after the update is installed on their computers. One reader told The Register that he gave up after several frustrating attempts to remove the erroneous update. The company said in a statement today: "We are aware of concerns that a recent Microsoft update may be causing problems with USB devices. We are investigating the matter, and at this time, do not have any information to share." Yesterday, meanwhile, Microsoft finally pumped out Vista service pack one (SP1) in the remaining 31 languages available as a manual download via its Windows Update site. However, the automatic version of the download remains missing in action. Redmond had chalked mid-April as the date when SP1 would start downloading onto computers across the world. Now Microsoft has been forced to admit that it has once again missed a crucial service pack deadline. The true trouble fun will start when computers begin receiving the automatic SP1 update, so why is Microsoft delaying getting the party started? A spokesman at the firm told El Reg: "Microsoft wants to ensure customers have the best possible experience with Windows Vista, including installing SP1; this has always been the priority. Until SP1 is automatically distributed via Windows Update, consumers are able to download SP1 manually using Windows Update." Elsewhere in Microsoft land, rumours are wildly scurrying through the interweb suggesting that Windows XP SP3 could throw its anchor overboard with a release to manufacturers on 21 April followed by a general release a week later. That's news that is likely to satisfy plenty of people who have decided to swerve Microsoft's unloved Vista in favour of soldiering on with XP until the arrival of Windows 7; the momentous occasion which some, including BillyG himself, hint could come as early as the second half of next year. R Update Microsoft contacted El Reg late Thursday to point out that the Windows update currently playing havoc with a number of USB devices was in fact Vista SP1 pre-requisite, KB938371 and not an update for its spyware blocker Windows Defender. -- Regards, Jan Ferguson [Team Elevate] thomas wrote: <<The two notebooks do not have any kind of antivirus software because <<they contain valuable data for the company, and they never connected <<to internet with these. << << the program runs from a usb HDD << Worked fine on XP pc << it is not inside program files folder << no antivirus program installed << not remember if idx files missing too, probably yes. << Same problem on two different pcs >> thomas |
Fri, Apr 18 2008 8:00 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Jan,
<< You might be interested in this article from the Register. I don't know if it relates to your issues. >> Interesting, and a possible avenue of exploration. One thing, though - try not to post entire articles here, but instead use a link. I wouldn't want to get in trouble for violating someone's copyrights. -- Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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