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Thread EDBManager editing hot keys
Wed, Mar 26 2008 3:50 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
I'm starting to use the EDBManager a lot, having finally switched to EDB
from DBISAM.  I know you've got more important issues to address (like the
forth-coming EDB 2.0), but I noticed a few (what I call) "standard
functionality" hot-keys that didn't do anything:

Ctrl+Tab / Shift+Ctrl+Tab:  Switch tabbed windows.  There were some windows
that wouldn't switch even by selecting them in the Windows menu.  I was
forced to use the mouse.  (Actually, I just noticed that it DOES switch
windows, but only from the "properties" tab to the next tab or previous tab.
Huh?)

Ctrl+RightArrow / Ctrl+LeftArrow:  Jump forward/backward a word in the code.
I have to hold down the arrow keys to move across a line.  (Or actually use
the mouse.  Gaah!)

Shift+Delete / Shift+Insert:  Shift+Delete deletes the same as the Delete
key without the Shift.  I'm accustomed to Shift+Delete actually cutting to
the clipboard and Shift+Insert pasting from the clipboard.  Ctrl+X and
Ctrl+V work, so this isn't a big deal. But after hitting Shift+Insert to
paste one time, the insert/overwrite mode changed and I didn't realize it.
Which brings me to my next point...

Insert/Overwrite mode indicator:  This isn't a hot-key, but just the word
"Insert" appears or disappears in a little box on the status bar.  When I
first hit the Insert key (above) and didn't realize I was no longer in
insert mode, I started typing and realized I was in overwrite mode.  I
looked on the status bar, but didn't see anything to confirm that.  After
hitting Insert, I saw the "Insert" indicator come on and realized where the
mode indicator was.  This is truely a minor point, but I'd like to see
either a grayed-out "Insert" or the word "Overwrite" toggled in it's place.
This would tell me explicitly which mode I'm in rather than simply telling
me when I'm in Insert mode and letting me guess otherwise.

Ctrl+O / Ctrl+N / Ctrl+S:  It'd be nice to have hot-keys to open an existing
document, create a new document, or save an existing script.  This last one
is especially important because I like to save often and quickly saving
before I switch to a different application or leave my computer for a few
minutes is something I do often.  If this is the only application I use that
does NOT allow Ctrl+S for saving, then I might hit it thinking everything is
OK when I haven't actually saved.


I almost feel silly mentioning these things, but they caught me off-guard
this morning and I thought I'd mention them here.  I really appreciate the
nice manager for working with the database and a lot of the new features in
EDB.  I'm having to switch my thinking around a little for some things, but
the payoff is worth it.

Thanks for the great job!

David Cornelius
corneliusconcepts.com
custom designed software

Wed, Mar 26 2008 4:14 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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David,

<< I'm starting to use the EDBManager a lot, having finally switched to EDB
from DBISAM.  I know you've got more important issues to address (like the
forth-coming EDB 2.0), but I noticed a few (what I call) "standard
functionality" hot-keys that didn't do anything: >>

Actually, these are some of the most-requested items for EDB, and we will be
addressing them in 2.0.  I don't have all of what you mentioned on the list
for 2.0, but I will add whatever I don't have.

Thanks,

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Wed, Mar 26 2008 4:23 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
Very cool!  Thanks much.

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David Cornelius
CorneliusConcepts.com
custom designed software


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> David,
>
> << I'm starting to use the EDBManager a lot, having finally switched to
> EDB from DBISAM.  I know you've got more important issues to address (like
> the forth-coming EDB 2.0), but I noticed a few (what I call) "standard
> functionality" hot-keys that didn't do anything: >>
>
> Actually, these are some of the most-requested items for EDB, and we will
> be addressing them in 2.0.  I don't have all of what you mentioned on the
> list for 2.0, but I will add whatever I don't have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Wed, Mar 26 2008 4:38 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
Oh, one more:

Ctrl+W or Ctrl+F4:  Close a tab.

Thanks,

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David Cornelius
CorneliusConcepts.com
custom designed software

"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> David,
>
> << I'm starting to use the EDBManager a lot, having finally switched to
> EDB from DBISAM.  I know you've got more important issues to address (like
> the forth-coming EDB 2.0), but I noticed a few (what I call) "standard
> functionality" hot-keys that didn't do anything: >>
>
> Actually, these are some of the most-requested items for EDB, and we will
> be addressing them in 2.0.  I don't have all of what you mentioned on the
> list for 2.0, but I will add whatever I don't have.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Thu, Mar 27 2008 4:25 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

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Tim


I hope a manual for EDBManager is coming as well - I know I only found out about some features after moaning about their lack and being put right by you.

Roy Lambert
Thu, Mar 27 2008 2:44 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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Roy,

<< I hope a manual for EDBManager is coming as well - I know I only found
out about some features after moaning about their lack and being put right
by you. >>

Yeah, it's waiting on the transition to a different help format since MS
decided to kill off WinHelp, and I don't want to use HTMLHelp because it's
clunky and will probably get the axe pretty soon also.  Of course, MS Help 2
is nice, but they don't let you redistribute any of it.

I'm working on a custom HTML help format/viewer for the EDB Manager that
won't be subject to being discontinued on us out of the blue.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Thu, Mar 27 2008 4:21 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
I hope this isn't delaying version 2.0.  I'd be happy with just a PDF for
now.  That's what I always use anyway as the Delphi help system is too slow
to be useful.


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David Cornelius
CorneliusConcepts.com
custom designed software


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote in message
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> Roy,
>
> << I hope a manual for EDBManager is coming as well - I know I only found
> out about some features after moaning about their lack and being put right
> by you. >>
>
> Yeah, it's waiting on the transition to a different help format since MS
> decided to kill off WinHelp, and I don't want to use HTMLHelp because it's
> clunky and will probably get the axe pretty soon also.  Of course, MS Help
> 2 is nice, but they don't let you redistribute any of it.
>
> I'm working on a custom HTML help format/viewer for the EDB Manager that
> won't be subject to being discontinued on us out of the blue.
>
> --
> Tim Young
> Elevate Software
> www.elevatesoft.com
>

Thu, Mar 27 2008 4:34 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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David,

<< I hope this isn't delaying version 2.0.  I'd be happy with just a PDF for
now.  That's what I always use anyway as the Delphi help system is too slow
to be useful. >>

No, not at all.  2.0 was mainly delayed by the new support plan changes.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Thu, Mar 27 2008 4:41 PMPermanent Link

"David Cornelius"
Good.  No hard-to-find technical bugs, then.

Where do I ask to get on the beta test list?


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David Cornelius
CorneliusConcepts.com
custom designed software


"Tim Young [Elevate Software]" <timyoung@elevatesoft.com> wrote:
>
> No, not at all.  2.0 was mainly delayed by the new support plan changes.

Thu, Mar 27 2008 5:11 PMPermanent Link

Tim Young [Elevate Software]

Elevate Software, Inc.

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David,

<< Where do I ask to get on the beta test list? >>

Here is fine. Smiley I'll add you to the list.

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Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

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