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OT: Mac News reader? |
Tue, Aug 11 2015 9:51 AM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | On 8/6/2015 11:15 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
> Anyone here using a Mac? I'd like a decent news reader, but can't see > an obvious winner. Thunderbird can do it, but I'm using it for mail, so > would prefer to keep it separate. Suggestions? I am but I'm using Thunderbird which you are using for mail so not very useful. I did try some other readers few years ago but Thunderbird always worked best for me. I recall one called Unison was nice but got discontinued after. You can also check MacSOUP and Hogwasher. > (I'm moving to all dev being in VMWare virtual machines, including EWB > coding.) Been doing this for about 4 years now and works really well for us - i run workstation product on pc as well and can easily copy the pc images back and forth. Raul |
Wed, Aug 12 2015 11:09 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Raul wrote:
> > Hogwasher. > Now trying that. Seems sensible enough. > > (I'm moving to all dev being in VMWare virtual machines, including > > EWB coding.) > > Been doing this for about 4 years now and works really well for us - > i run workstation product on pc as well and can easily copy the pc > images back and forth. In general it is working really well. The biggest issue I have is that I have to use a Dongle (Deskey DK2) which seems to want to disconnect every so often. Pain! -- Matthew Jones |
Wed, Aug 12 2015 11:23 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Matthew Jones wrote:
> > > > Hogwasher. > > > > Now trying that. Seems sensible enough. Except that it fails completely on the Elevate news server. It complains the server doesn't support XHDR. I have an iPhone app that I also use, but it cannot post for some reason. I also have another app that can't read the messages. I think we have just shown why HTTP won over other protocols! 8-) -- Matthew Jones |
Wed, Aug 12 2015 1:35 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | On 8/12/2015 11:09 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
> In general it is working really well. The biggest issue I have is that > I have to use a Dongle (Deskey DK2) which seems to want to disconnect > every so often. Pain! Most USB devices work well (drives, mobile phone etc) but there can be some weird ones. I have a garmin GPS that i never did get to connect to VM properly. If you have not already done so then there are few useful articles VMware has (some older but might still apply): Fuision and how to enable USB debugging: https://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-8720 More general ones (most should apply to fusion also): http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1027964 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1008576 http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=774 Raul |
Wed, Aug 12 2015 2:06 PM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | On 8/12/2015 11:23 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
> Except that it fails completely on the Elevate news server. It > complains the server doesn't support XHDR. Quick google indicates this might be a fix for this : ================================ Turn off the option to Retrieve Newsgroups header in your account settings Go to your account settings. menu bar item Setup>Accounts select the news account name for your account click the Edit icon select the options tab and then turn off (uncheck) Retrieve Newsgroups Header ================================ Raul |
Thu, Aug 13 2015 4:19 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Raul wrote:
> ================================ > Turn off the option to Retrieve Newsgroups header in your account > settings > > Go to your account settings. > menu bar item Setup>Accounts > select the news account name for your account > click the Edit icon > select the options tab > and then > turn off (uncheck) Retrieve Newsgroups Header > ================================ Thanks, and that is what it said in the error message, but it does not seem to relate at all to the software that was in front of me. And I don't think that the server has such a menu bar, so I gave up after a good look around. -- Matthew Jones |
Thu, Aug 13 2015 5:37 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Matthew Jones wrote:
> so I gave up after a > good look around. And so I had another look around at alternatives, and frankly there isn't anything since about 2009 that has been supported. This is another area where the market is ripe for taking over - news readers (iOS too!) and weather monitors. I cannot believe that weather monitor software requires me to have an application running all the time, on both Windows and Mac! Really? And if there is an agent or something reading the data, you have to shut it down to make a change? What decade is this? I sat down and worked out what I'd have as my UI for a weather app (in WebBuilder of course, so multi-client), and it is quite simple. But of course the reason these markets are so poorly served is because there is no money in them. Not for the shoddy work that is sold at the moment anyway. I always felt too dirty to buy the one I tried as a demo, but fortunately the software was so poor that the "timeout" always reset itself so I never had to. Then I changed the PC at home from Windows to Mac, and I feel no need to plug the station back in. And so it is with NNTP I guess. Sigh. Fortunately I have virtualised my "broken" PC so will be able to continue for a while. Back to work now... -- Matthew Jones |
Thu, Aug 13 2015 6:00 AM | Permanent Link |
Matthew Jones | Matthew Jones wrote:
> have virtualised my "broken" PC so will be able to continue for a > while. Back to work now... Which reminded me why I got distracted - the dongle doesn't connect again. But I thought I'd try Thunderbird - all looking good, until I composed a reply, and it emailed it... No means to send back to the NNTP server it seems. Aargh. -- Matthew Jones |
Thu, Aug 13 2015 9:52 AM | Permanent Link |
Raul Team Elevate | On 8/13/2015 5:37 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
<< And so I had another look around at alternatives, and frankly there isn't anything since about 2009 that has been supported. >> Agreed - i very much prefer NNTP over looking at the forums in browser and Thunderbird is only game in town. Most of this is simply the interface though - i like to see the discussions trees etc and easily identify new posts. Maybe this is alternative web UI (done with EWB) that looks more like nttp style newsreader view !? One would need web API that provides NNTP style access to messages. > another area where the market is ripe for taking over - news readers > (iOS too!) and weather monitors. I cannot believe that weather monitor > software requires me to have an application running all the time, on > both Windows and Mac! Really? And if there is an agent or something Have you looked at MeteoBridge (http://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page). It runs off a small cheap hardware router (tp-link seems to be preferred but others supported also : http://www.meteobridge.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware). Regards, Raul |
Thu, Aug 13 2015 3:57 PM | Permanent Link |
Tim Young [Elevate Software] Elevate Software, Inc. timyoung@elevatesoft.com | Raul,
<< Maybe this is alternative web UI (done with EWB) that looks more like nttp style newsreader view !? One would need web API that provides NNTP style access to messages. >> I'm going to take a crack at this, once I get an EWB TTreeView control done. We need it for our support forums. Tim Young Elevate Software www.elevatesoft.com |
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